5 ms·

Who Goes Nazi? (1941)

44 points by Anon84 7mo ago

rdevilla 7mo ago
Apparently, whoever society calls a Nazi. Something of a self fulfilling prophecy, that.
- daveguy 7mo ago
  Nah. Usually the racist fascist bullshit happens first and the Nazi label is then applied appropriately.
- mpalmer 7mo ago
  I see the problem. You're supposed to read history in the other direction.
  - Ancapistani 7mo ago
    I get what you’re saying, but this is important enough that it doesn’t feel like nitpicking: You’re not going to learn anything from history if you only read it in one direction.
- GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
  i have yet to see a good-faith use of this type of argument ("we're just calling anybody a nazi these days!"). to what end is this made, beyond concern trolling/sealioning/misdirectional use of pedantic and toothless "terminology" appeals? it's especially concerning to see this argument used on a historical article contemporary with the NSDAP's control of Germany (and neighbors). yes, this refers to the "actual" nazis.
  - eudamoniac 7mo ago
    The end is simply to inform that crying wolf is not in anyone's interest but real Nazis'.
    - GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
      yeah this is exactly what i'm talking about. "real" nazis? they're all dead. people who walk, talk and act like real nazis? they're running very important parts of the US government right now.
      - eudamoniac 7mo ago
        All I can say is that you must be extremely sheltered to truly believe that. Real (neo)Nazis are alive and they want very actively to gun down nonwhites like myself in the street. Politicians who you don't agree with about the magnitude of immigration quotas are not the same thing, regardless of how often you pretend they are.
        GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
        i don't think you and i actually disagree about any of what you're saying in this reply :)
- jalapenoj 7mo ago
  and then jews went and committed a genocide
hrimfaxi 7mo ago
> Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. They may be the gentle philosopher whose name is in the Blue Book, or Bill from City College to whom democracy gave a chance to design airplanes—you’ll never make Nazis out of them. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis. > Believe me, nice people don’t go Nazi. Their race, color, creed, or social condition is not the criterion. It is something in them. > Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t—whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi. It’s an amusing game. Try it at the next big party you go to. Back an animal against the wall and out come the fangs. The rate at which "once in a lifetime" events have unfolded in the past two decades is making it increasingly hard for society to mint kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, and most importantly, _secure_ people.
- deleted 7mo ago
  [deleted]
lithocarpus 7mo ago
"That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would."
comrade1234 7mo ago
This is one of my favorite photos: https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-collaboration/non-conformity/refusal-to-salute/ https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-c... This would be me to my detriment. I totally can't read a room and I do what I think is right. I've also passed over job opportunities in defense/intelligence (and the porn industry) because I know they were wrong. I could have much more money and wealth than I have now. What's wrong with me? I sometimes do think this is a flaw in myself. I have friends that work for Google and Facebook and I don't know how they do it.
- spwa4 7mo ago
  > I have friends that work for Google and Facebook and I don't know how they do it. That's easy. Grow up in Western Europe, start working ~2000. Learn how things work there, how government spying (sorry "lawful intercept") works, for example. Work for the "IT police", and quit on the spot after realizing you're about to refer a 14 year old to a police kolonel at the request of Sony Music, run crying out of the building. Run back in and after starting the reformat of some well-chosen harddrives, quit. Realize Google, with some very large flaws, is a massive force for good in the world. Leave the country, work for Google, and sleep soundly every fucking day knowing your skills are put to far better use at Google.
  - text0404 7mo ago
    You are aware that Google collects massive amounts of data and provides it to government and law enforcement without warrants [1][2], as well as working with the US and foreign militaries for legally-questionable ends [3][4]? [1] https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-dhs-info-of-anti-ice-users-report-says-2000722279 https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-... [2] https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/10/google-sent-personal-and-financial-information-of-student-journalist-to-ice/ https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/10/google-sent-personal-and-f... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/26/technology/google-deepmind-letter-pentagon.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/26/technology/google-deepmin... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nimbus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nimbus
josefritzishere 7mo ago
This could have been written yesterday.

44 points by Anon84 7mo ago

rdevilla 7mo ago

Apparently, whoever society calls a Nazi. Something of a self fulfilling prophecy, that.

daveguy 7mo ago
Nah. Usually the racist fascist bullshit happens first and the Nazi label is then applied appropriately.
mpalmer 7mo ago
I see the problem. You're supposed to read history in the other direction.
- Ancapistani 7mo ago
  I get what you’re saying, but this is important enough that it doesn’t feel like nitpicking: You’re not going to learn anything from history if you only read it in one direction.
GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
i have yet to see a good-faith use of this type of argument ("we're just calling anybody a nazi these days!"). to what end is this made, beyond concern trolling/sealioning/misdirectional use of pedantic and toothless "terminology" appeals? it's especially concerning to see this argument used on a historical article contemporary with the NSDAP's control of Germany (and neighbors). yes, this refers to the "actual" nazis.
- eudamoniac 7mo ago
  The end is simply to inform that crying wolf is not in anyone's interest but real Nazis'.
  - GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
    yeah this is exactly what i'm talking about. "real" nazis? they're all dead. people who walk, talk and act like real nazis? they're running very important parts of the US government right now.
    - eudamoniac 7mo ago
      All I can say is that you must be extremely sheltered to truly believe that. Real (neo)Nazis are alive and they want very actively to gun down nonwhites like myself in the street. Politicians who you don't agree with about the magnitude of immigration quotas are not the same thing, regardless of how often you pretend they are.
      - GuinansEyebrows 7mo ago
        i don't think you and i actually disagree about any of what you're saying in this reply :)
jalapenoj 7mo ago
and then jews went and committed a genocide

hrimfaxi 7mo ago

> Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi. They may be the gentle philosopher whose name is in the Blue Book, or Bill from City College to whom democracy gave a chance to design airplanes—you’ll never make Nazis out of them. But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis. > Believe me, nice people don’t go Nazi. Their race, color, creed, or social condition is not the criterion. It is something in them. > Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t—whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi. It’s an amusing game. Try it at the next big party you go to. Back an animal against the wall and out come the fangs. The rate at which "once in a lifetime" events have unfolded in the past two decades is making it increasingly hard for society to mint kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, and most importantly, _secure_ people.

deleted 7mo ago
[deleted]

lithocarpus 7mo ago

"That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would."

comrade1234 7mo ago

This is one of my favorite photos: https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-collaboration/non-conformity/refusal-to-salute/ https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-c... This would be me to my detriment. I totally can't read a room and I do what I think is right. I've also passed over job opportunities in defense/intelligence (and the porn industry) because I know they were wrong. I could have much more money and wealth than I have now. What's wrong with me? I sometimes do think this is a flaw in myself. I have friends that work for Google and Facebook and I don't know how they do it.

spwa4 7mo ago
> I have friends that work for Google and Facebook and I don't know how they do it. That's easy. Grow up in Western Europe, start working ~2000. Learn how things work there, how government spying (sorry "lawful intercept") works, for example. Work for the "IT police", and quit on the spot after realizing you're about to refer a 14 year old to a police kolonel at the request of Sony Music, run crying out of the building. Run back in and after starting the reformat of some well-chosen harddrives, quit. Realize Google, with some very large flaws, is a massive force for good in the world. Leave the country, work for Google, and sleep soundly every fucking day knowing your skills are put to far better use at Google.
- text0404 7mo ago
  You are aware that Google collects massive amounts of data and provides it to government and law enforcement without warrants [1][2], as well as working with the US and foreign militaries for legally-questionable ends [3][4]? [1] https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-dhs-info-of-anti-ice-users-report-says-2000722279 https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-... [2] https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/10/google-sent-personal-and-financial-information-of-student-journalist-to-ice/ https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/10/google-sent-personal-and-f... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/26/technology/google-deepmind-letter-pentagon.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/26/technology/google-deepmin... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nimbus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nimbus

josefritzishere 7mo ago

This could have been written yesterday.