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This isn't a novelty it will crush the low end of the PC market. No one cares if the next iteration will be better with 12GB of ram. The workloads that people s

This isn't a novelty it will crush the low end of the PC market. No one cares if the next iteration will be better with 12GB of ram. The workloads that people say that 8GB can't handle will be ones that the actual users will either wait or tolerate. I've been noticing that people who review the Macbook Neo basically don't get the point [1] and just the headline of this article matters that VMs work and thats a big win. The most ridicuous thing about the laptop is that it appears to be reparable which sort of tells me this is a template similar to the M1 Air of the future laptop designs that Apple will come out with. [2] [1] https://samhenri.gold/blog/20260312-this-is-not-the-computer-for-you/ https://samhenri.gold/blog/20260312-this-is-not-the-computer... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbPCGqoBB4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbPCGqoBB4Y

Someone1234 7mo ago
> This isn't a novelty it will crush the low end of the PC market. You took what I said out of context and then replied to something else. Running Parallels on a Neo is a novelty. Parallels is both what the thread is about AND what my reply was expressly about. Nobody can reasonably read what I wrote, in context, and believe I was referring to the computer itself as a novelty.
- awesome_dude 7mo ago
  I saw the other day people complaining about AI slop being posted on this site by new accounts - which I agree is bad. Someone suggested that people with 10k karma and/or 10 years subscription to this site should be able to do things (such as auto-ban) to those accounts. The account that misrepresented your comment and thus acted in bad faith is one of those 10k+ accounts. To me, this is a data point showing the fallacy of long term subscription and/or karma accrual as evidence of their quality/good faith abilities
  - zitterbewegung 7mo ago
    I admit now after rereading that I did misrepresent what they said and I should have read their comment more closely and it was a knee jerk reaction and that its my fault.
- zitterbewegung 7mo ago
  Sorry, I misread your post I can't edit it anymore and I should have read into your post and it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.
- xnyan 7mo ago
  I honestly thought you were saying it was a novelty, though now I can see I misread/misunderstood.
- deleted 7mo ago
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gamblor956 7mo ago
Most people run Windows just fine on cheap laptops with 4GB of RAM. These won't run Crysis, but they don't need to.
- bitwize 7mo ago
  Windows doesn't run "just fine" on 4 GiB of RAM. I had a laptop with 6; Windows 10 became barely usable. If you want to run one, small, program at a time I think you'll be ok. Forget about web browsing; you'll get one tab and it'll be slow.
  - johnebgd 7mo ago
    Agreed. Windows 10/11 can run just fine on 4GB of RAM. You just can't run anything inside of Windows 10/11 with 4GB of RAM. The last version of Windows that felt like 4GB of RAM was performant for me with applications was Windows XP. Not that every computer running the 32-bit edition of Windows XP could even see/utilize a full 4GB of RAM properly, but at least it was fast.
    - accrual 7mo ago
      I found even Windows 7 ran very well with just 4GB of DDR2. I only upgraded to 8GB when I started testing Windows 8/8.1 on that rig. Though I get by just fine with 512MB on my favorite Pentium 3 XP system. :D
    - alpaca128 7mo ago
      My Windows 7 laptop had 4GB RAM and I played Crysis 2 on it. 4GB was absolutely enough for a performant system.
    - bitwize 7mo ago
      I ran a Windows 7 system with 3GiB as a gaming machine and it was just fine. Windows 7... the last Windows release that was acceptable-ish. Memories...
  - hn_acc1 7mo ago
    HDD or SSD? SSD can effectively make up for SOME amount of less RAM due to faster swapping, in my experience.
mikkupikku 7mo ago
How is VM support relevant to mass adoption? Norms don't use VMs.
simonh 7mo ago
I take it's repairability slightly differently. That's because it is highly modular, and I think the reason for that is longevity. They put a lot of engineering effort into this thing, and so at this price point that has to pay back over a lot of devices over a long period. This design isn't going to change for many years, but the internals will iterate independently.

Someone1234 7mo ago

> This isn't a novelty it will crush the low end of the PC market. You took what I said out of context and then replied to something else. Running Parallels on a Neo is a novelty. Parallels is both what the thread is about AND what my reply was expressly about. Nobody can reasonably read what I wrote, in context, and believe I was referring to the computer itself as a novelty.

awesome_dude 7mo ago
I saw the other day people complaining about AI slop being posted on this site by new accounts - which I agree is bad. Someone suggested that people with 10k karma and/or 10 years subscription to this site should be able to do things (such as auto-ban) to those accounts. The account that misrepresented your comment and thus acted in bad faith is one of those 10k+ accounts. To me, this is a data point showing the fallacy of long term subscription and/or karma accrual as evidence of their quality/good faith abilities
- zitterbewegung 7mo ago
  I admit now after rereading that I did misrepresent what they said and I should have read their comment more closely and it was a knee jerk reaction and that its my fault.
zitterbewegung 7mo ago
Sorry, I misread your post I can't edit it anymore and I should have read into your post and it was a knee jerk reaction on my part.
xnyan 7mo ago
I honestly thought you were saying it was a novelty, though now I can see I misread/misunderstood.
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gamblor956 7mo ago

Most people run Windows just fine on cheap laptops with 4GB of RAM. These won't run Crysis, but they don't need to.

bitwize 7mo ago
Windows doesn't run "just fine" on 4 GiB of RAM. I had a laptop with 6; Windows 10 became barely usable. If you want to run one, small, program at a time I think you'll be ok. Forget about web browsing; you'll get one tab and it'll be slow.
- johnebgd 7mo ago
  Agreed. Windows 10/11 can run just fine on 4GB of RAM. You just can't run anything inside of Windows 10/11 with 4GB of RAM. The last version of Windows that felt like 4GB of RAM was performant for me with applications was Windows XP. Not that every computer running the 32-bit edition of Windows XP could even see/utilize a full 4GB of RAM properly, but at least it was fast.
  - accrual 7mo ago
    I found even Windows 7 ran very well with just 4GB of DDR2. I only upgraded to 8GB when I started testing Windows 8/8.1 on that rig. Though I get by just fine with 512MB on my favorite Pentium 3 XP system. :D
  - alpaca128 7mo ago
    My Windows 7 laptop had 4GB RAM and I played Crysis 2 on it. 4GB was absolutely enough for a performant system.
  - bitwize 7mo ago
    I ran a Windows 7 system with 3GiB as a gaming machine and it was just fine. Windows 7... the last Windows release that was acceptable-ish. Memories...
- hn_acc1 7mo ago
  HDD or SSD? SSD can effectively make up for SOME amount of less RAM due to faster swapping, in my experience.

mikkupikku 7mo ago

How is VM support relevant to mass adoption? Norms don't use VMs.

simonh 7mo ago

I take it's repairability slightly differently. That's because it is highly modular, and I think the reason for that is longevity. They put a lot of engineering effort into this thing, and so at this price point that has to pay back over a lot of devices over a long period. This design isn't going to change for many years, but the internals will iterate independently.