I've also worked for "consulting" and "product" companies. The PMs I've worked with at product companies have been competent. They understand the customer's nee

I've also worked for "consulting" and "product" companies. The PMs I've worked with at product companies have been competent. They understand the customer's needs. They spec out features and product mockups. They know how to work with developers. The PMs I've worked with in consulting companies are clerical workers. They check a box and copy-paste updates into Jira with little-to-no understanding. It's a completely different world. Part of it is the PMs in product companies are really more product managers, even if their title says otherwise. The PMs in consulting companies don't understand the difference.