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Native, no. That would cannibalise Apple services which is a huge source of revenue for them.

by hu3 7mo ago

dymk 7mo ago
Nobody is moving to Linux because there’s an iCloud replacement waiting for them over there…
Retr0id 7mo ago
Have you confirmed this? I haven't seen anyone concretely describe the boot policy of the Neo yet (it should be an easy enough check for anyone who has one in-hand).
- alwillis 7mo ago
  Like any other Apple Silicon Mac, you can't currently boot into Linux but Apple has native container support that Linux works on [1]. [1]: https://github.com/apple/container https://github.com/apple/container
  - Retr0id 7mo ago
    I'm writing this from Linux running natively (not virtualized) on an Apple Silicon mac (M1 Pro)
    - alwillis 7mo ago
      I'm aware of that option, but that's not something the average user is going to do. But knock yourself out if you want to try it.
      - Retr0id 7mo ago
        If you were aware then why did you tell me I can't???
      - nar001 7mo ago
        I'm confused, you weren't talking about what the average user would do, just about what it can? Asahi Linux is pretty good, not sure why that'd be a real issue?
      - jen20 7mo ago
        The average user isn't going to run Linux at all.
    - dwedge 7mo ago
      How does it function? Last time I tried was a 2018 Intel MBP and it was a gamble where I would always lose either WiFi (despite the driver being in the installer iso) or the keyboard. I'm aware it's a totally different architecture, but I also seem to remember comments about that one too before I tried.
      - Retr0id 7mo ago
        It's the best linux-on-laptop experience I've had so far (including various Thinkpads). Never had any issues with wifi nor bluetooth (I'm streaming music via bluetooth via spotify via wifi, right now). The only missing feature I personally care about at this point is HDR support. There's no thunderbolt yet, but I don't own any thunderbolt peripherals in the first place. There is occasional jank, but nothing out of the ordinary.
    - alwillis 7mo ago
      My fault; I'd lost track how far Asahi progressed.

Native, no. That would cannibalise Apple services which is a huge source of revenue for them.

by hu3 7mo ago

Native, no. That would cannibalise Apple services which is a huge source of revenue for them.

dymk 7mo ago

Nobody is moving to Linux because there’s an iCloud replacement waiting for them over there…

Retr0id 7mo ago

Have you confirmed this? I haven't seen anyone concretely describe the boot policy of the Neo yet (it should be an easy enough check for anyone who has one in-hand).

alwillis 7mo ago
Like any other Apple Silicon Mac, you can't currently boot into Linux but Apple has native container support that Linux works on [1]. [1]: https://github.com/apple/container https://github.com/apple/container
- Retr0id 7mo ago
  I'm writing this from Linux running natively (not virtualized) on an Apple Silicon mac (M1 Pro)
  - alwillis 7mo ago
    I'm aware of that option, but that's not something the average user is going to do. But knock yourself out if you want to try it.
    - Retr0id 7mo ago
      If you were aware then why did you tell me I can't???
    - nar001 7mo ago
      I'm confused, you weren't talking about what the average user would do, just about what it can? Asahi Linux is pretty good, not sure why that'd be a real issue?
    - jen20 7mo ago
      The average user isn't going to run Linux at all.
  - dwedge 7mo ago
    How does it function? Last time I tried was a 2018 Intel MBP and it was a gamble where I would always lose either WiFi (despite the driver being in the installer iso) or the keyboard. I'm aware it's a totally different architecture, but I also seem to remember comments about that one too before I tried.
    - Retr0id 7mo ago
      It's the best linux-on-laptop experience I've had so far (including various Thinkpads). Never had any issues with wifi nor bluetooth (I'm streaming music via bluetooth via spotify via wifi, right now). The only missing feature I personally care about at this point is HDR support. There's no thunderbolt yet, but I don't own any thunderbolt peripherals in the first place. There is occasional jank, but nothing out of the ordinary.
  - alwillis 7mo ago
    My fault; I'd lost track how far Asahi progressed.