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Some police departments seem to actively reject candidates that have higher scores on IQ tests. Not that I think IQ test scores and actual intelligence are rela

by mschild 7mo ago

Some police departments seem to actively reject candidates that have higher scores on IQ tests. Not that I think IQ test scores and actual intelligence are related but it clearly shows their intended target candidate group. https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836 https://abcnews.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story...

tptacek 7mo ago
This came up a few weeks ago. I don't think it's true. This lawsuit from 26 years ago is the only example anybody has come up with. Among the problems with this claim: * Nobody can find a police department that administers any kind of general cognitive test. * There are large states with statewide written police aptitude tests that are imperfect but correlated to general cognitive ability, and maximizing scores on that test is the universal correct strategy. * It's a luridly stupid policy and most municipalities aren't luridly stupid. I think this happened like, once or twice, in one or two of the 20,000 police departments across the United States, many of which are like one goober and his sidekick (no offense to them; just, you live in gooberville, you're a goober), and now it's an Internet meme that police departments specifically hire for midwittery. Nah.
- ahazred8ta 7mo ago
  In different states, police use cognitive aptitude tests such as the Wonderlic -- https://jobdescriptionandresumeexamples.com/10-important-facts-about-wonderlic-test-for-police-officers/ https://jobdescriptionandresumeexamples.com/10-important-fac... -- https://www.practice4me.com/lst-police-exam/ https://www.practice4me.com/lst-police-exam/ -- these are not strictly 'IQ' tests, but they're very similar.
  - tptacek 7mo ago
    The Wonderlic might as well be an IQ test (I'm using the term "general cognitive test"). The LST isn't; it's a domain-specific occupational exam. If you find a place that (1) uses the Wonderlic and (2) has recently (like, not all the way back in 2000) claimed there was a high-end cut-off for applicants, you'll have disproven my claim. I don't think giving general cognitive tests to prospective police officers is common; this is why there are things like the LST, the PELLETB, and the POST.

by mschild 7mo ago

tptacek 7mo ago

This came up a few weeks ago. I don't think it's true. This lawsuit from 26 years ago is the only example anybody has come up with. Among the problems with this claim: * Nobody can find a police department that administers any kind of general cognitive test. * There are large states with statewide written police aptitude tests that are imperfect but correlated to general cognitive ability, and maximizing scores on that test is the universal correct strategy. * It's a luridly stupid policy and most municipalities aren't luridly stupid. I think this happened like, once or twice, in one or two of the 20,000 police departments across the United States, many of which are like one goober and his sidekick (no offense to them; just, you live in gooberville, you're a goober), and now it's an Internet meme that police departments specifically hire for midwittery. Nah.

ahazred8ta 7mo ago
In different states, police use cognitive aptitude tests such as the Wonderlic -- https://jobdescriptionandresumeexamples.com/10-important-facts-about-wonderlic-test-for-police-officers/ https://jobdescriptionandresumeexamples.com/10-important-fac... -- https://www.practice4me.com/lst-police-exam/ https://www.practice4me.com/lst-police-exam/ -- these are not strictly 'IQ' tests, but they're very similar.
- tptacek 7mo ago
  The Wonderlic might as well be an IQ test (I'm using the term "general cognitive test"). The LST isn't; it's a domain-specific occupational exam. If you find a place that (1) uses the Wonderlic and (2) has recently (like, not all the way back in 2000) claimed there was a high-end cut-off for applicants, you'll have disproven my claim. I don't think giving general cognitive tests to prospective police officers is common; this is why there are things like the LST, the PELLETB, and the POST.