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Name one thing lacking in the utilities included with MacOS (which come from BSD).
by hollerith 7mo ago
Name one thing lacking in the utilities included with MacOS (which come from BSD).
- bigyabai 7mo agoThe overwhelming majority of UNIX-like software isn't designed for BSD runtimes, to name one.
- hollerith 7mo agoI ask for a specific example, and you respond with more generalities.
- freeone3000 7mo agoAside from the BSD software, the Mac software, and all the software that’s actually POSIX-compliant (on purpose or by accident).
- veltas 7mo agoThe overwhelming majority of UNIX-like software is available in the package managers right now for major BSDs.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoSo exactly eves “Unix like software” will kids be missing that prevents them from learning about computers?
- BigTTYGothGF 7mo agoThroughout history the overwhelming majority of unix-like software was designed to work only on the particular flavor of unix used by its author.
- raw_anon_1111 7mo agoAnd guess how many people care?
- realusername 7mo agoIs it still shipping with that ancient bash, the awful Iterm and without a package manager? I haven't used OSX for a while.
- wolvoleo 7mo agoNo. Zsh is now standard, though it still included an old optional version of bash. Apple hates GPLv3 that's why they moved away from bash. The terminal app is not iterm. But Apple's own Terminal.app And no there's no package manager but there's brew and macports.
- realusername 7mo agoI didn't know it was an homemade terminal, it's just that it looked old and abandoned compared to your average Linux distribution.
- wolvoleo 7mo agoIt is made by Apple yes. It's not very bad, it even has big font support from the VT100 series. And a lot of style settings in the menu bar. It's not iterm2 but it's way better than what windows offers (not just the console but the newer windows terminal isn't as good either IMO)
- Paracompact 7mo ago`grep -P` kinda annoying. GNU has Perl-compatible regex, and BSD does not. You're reaching for `perl` or installing `ggrep` the moment you need a lookbehind.
- kybernetyk 7mo agoBSD grep is the pure grep version though. Perl regex is unnecessary bloat.
- Paracompact 7mo agoIs it unnecessary bloat to match for digits X in patterns $X, say among a bunch of receipts? Eye of the beholder and all, but I'm inclined to think no.