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That's not really how secure coding works at Microsoft though. There aren't more eyes on the code, just more developer training and more processes in place. (At
by jcheng 14y ago
That's not really how secure coding works at Microsoft though. There aren't more eyes on the code, just more developer training and more processes in place. (At least that was my experience working there from 2006 to 2009.)
- tptacek 14y agoThere are more eyes on the code too, though: virtually everything Microsoft ships gets a 3rd party review.
- Locke1689 14y agoWe also have mandatory security training for all developers. Turning every developer into a security reviewer helps a lot. It's nothing compared to the knowledge I got by working in app sec or teaching network security, but it's pretty good for increasing the base of knowledge among general developers.
- dllthomas 14y ago... that still isn't "many eyes" on any particular piece of code, in the sense of the saying, though.
- tptacek 14y agoJust because Eric S. Raymond says that's how security bugs should be found doesn't mean that's how security bugs are actually found.
- dllthomas 14y agoAnd that is an interesting point; and it is specifically the point the G*P was making, which was obscured by saying, "Oh, but there are still multiple eyes here."