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IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users
- mtgx 14y agoI don't trust Net Application's data. They always seem to show either IE or iOS mobile share being much, much larger than what the numbers of those devices would suggest.
- mindstab 14y agohttp://gs.statcounter.com/ http://gs.statcounter.com/ Stat Counter usually seems more reliable to me
- ricardobeat 14y agostatcounter puts IE9 at 17%, not that far off: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combined-ww-monthly-201110-201210 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combine...
- mtgx 14y agoIt also shows Chrome at double of what Net Apps says. I've been following Chrome's growth over the years, and the Statcounter number for Chrome seems a lot more likely than the Net Apps one.
- Steko 14y agoStatcounter doesn't count users, it counts raw hits. Both numbers are relevant for different reasons. If you agree that Chrome users surf more this could easily account for most of the difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
- mtgx 14y agoThat is strange, because Net Apps also counts the iOS browser (iPhone, iPod touch, iPad) as something like 50-60% market share, when there are only 400 million iOS devices and 500 million Android devices. I doubt the majority of Android users have never used the browser.
- Steko 14y agoWild guesses: (1) I've heard the old Android browser on some phones can report it's user agent as safari or some generic looking webkit that might get folded into safari numbers. (2) site bias? Purely as an illustrative example imagine if Apple.com was one of the sites in Net Apps network while Android.com was in the Statcounter network. (3) actually accurate. The wikimedia numbers are 10% mobile safari and 4.5% android.
- jeffisabelle 14y agooh, this made me look at google analytics instantly. my blog is still safe with 6.68% `total` IE visits.
- bravoyankee 14y agoFirefox is horribly slow, and I don't even mean in comparison to Chrome. It's slow in its own right. The constant updates? I'm getting used to it (although I can't really tell a difference one version to the next). It's the slowness and the crashing that gets to me. Chrome has me spoiled I guess.
- kwanbis 14y agoWhat slowness do you talk about? I have mine open with 20 tabs. No slowness.
- darklajid 14y agoI .. believe you, I guess. You obviously tried the current versions and they weren't for you. Still, I'm baffled. I removed Chrome from my Android devices (what for?) and only have it on my desktop machines for tests. I start it once every fortnight. Firefox, with its sync feature, keeps my browsing experience in order. I've to admit that I'm using the Beta 'channel' on both Windows and Android. The readability mode is amazing. My add-ons are really helpful. Oh - and I didn't even mention that it's the fastest browser on an Android device for all I can tell (and so fast on my desktop that I couldn't give the crown to either IE, Chrome or FF - they all are plenty fast and good enough). While I might sound a bit like a fan here (and I admit that I do like that browser quite a bit), I wonder what provoked your 'na na na na na!' Nelson style answer. The speed issue seems to be .. debatable / bad luck. Frequent updates are bad, but Chrome is good? Uhm.. Hard to take that serious. Let's relax. I think that there's no need to argue about the value FF brought to the web. You might prefer 'newer' contestants and that's really fine! But bashing open-source projects that are alive, kicking and innovating, with some not-quite-that-creative broad 'ugh, slooow' criticism isn't .. nice or useful. In my world, at least.
- bravoyankee 14y agoI'm lamenting the poor performance of the browser. I have nothing but massive respect for the developers. But I marvel at the difference and see that even with all these updates, the gap between Chrome and Firefox gets wider and wider.
- ricardobeat 14y agohttp://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-sa-monthly-201110-201210 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-sa-monthly-201110-201210
- zizee 14y agoIt would be really nice if Google published their browser usage stats based on their Google analytics data. If anyone could have accurate numbers it would be Google.
- elchief 14y agoPlease remember that IE6 is barely used in NorAm and Europe (0.59% NorAm from statcounter). It's mostly in China. If China is not your target market, please ignore IE6.
- jsdalton 14y agoThis is from one of the sites (North American B2B publication) I manage that's been around a few years: http://i.imgur.com/WADrl.png http://i.imgur.com/WADrl.png (The top blue line is total Internet Explorer visits.) The data backs up what you are saying. IE6 is definitely dead!
- rorrr 14y agoI see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.
- ladzoppelin 14y agoI find Aurora faster then Chrome and it displays fonts/pages better. I also think the memory use is much better then Chrome. Maybe its the Nvidia acceleration?
- rorrr 14y agoAurora is what, a pre-beta release? And you're comparing it to the production Chrome? And who cares about memory use on the desktop? I got 8GB, and my browser never even gets close to maxing that out. 16GB can be bought for around $45.
- mitchty 14y agoI care about memory use, i've been able to get Chrome up to >8g of memory used with no problems. Firefox rarely gets over 2g with similar use.
- bcoates 14y agoI very rarely experience chrome crashes, but when it happens, it's always the entire browser. I'd be a lot more worried that crashes almost certainly imply security holes than how much it interrupts my browsing session.
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- neoswf 14y agoPaid article by Microsoft.
- jeremyjh 14y agoI have to use IE 9 some at work and lately I've not been opening Firefox unless I'm debugging a website. IE 9 is just pretty decent most of the time. At home I switched back from Chrome to Firefox this spring. I think Firefox performs better on Ubuntu. On the Win 7 netbook I share with my wife we run only Chrome. So uhm, I guess my story is that all three of those mainstream browsers are totally decent these days.
- sharkweek 14y agoI forgot who talked about it (one of the leads from one of those three) and he said long gone are the days of seeing browsers massively outperform one another. For the internet savvy, it's more a feature competition at this point mixed with user loyalty (Firefox, you'll always have my heart, even if Chrome is better)
- jamesbrennan 14y agoDoes anyone have some insight into why IE6 has a greater marketshare than IE7?
- shardling 14y agoBecause more intranet apps were written using IE6 specific technology, and that's basically the main reason anyone would still be using either.
- sek 14y agoChina, it's almost non existent anywhere else. Even the "enterprise" upgraded to IEX but they probably skip IE7 when they do that. For intranet stuff maybe still some IE6, but not much left i guess.
- paupino_masano 14y agoI actually do most of my debugging in IE now - and I've actually come to like the devkit they've got going. Ok, I am developing for internal intranets which of which my primary is IE, but they've actually come a long way. In terms of PC browsers (Mac is a different story) I'd probably put Chrome first, IE second and Firefox third. I still prefer Chrome, but partly because it is my preferred browser on Mac too - I like consistency. I also think that their devkit is ever so slightly better... but in saying that I'm not unhappy with IE - it does what I tell it to do, it's fairly consistent and feels quite light (compared to Firefox which still feels heavy to me even after their improvements...). Admittedly there are some tricks you need to learn in the IE devkit (e.g. add an attribute of style to create new CSS definitions) but all in all I think they've done a pretty good job at cleaning up their act! PS: I used to do ALL my development in Firefox with Firebug and the Webdev kit. I find now that Chrome/IE handles things very well: though Chrome still allows me to install the Webdev kit if I need it (e.g. rulers, security checks etc). I guess I switch browser camps often based on my needs :)
- iamleppert 14y agoHow can you possibly say IE's F9 Developer Tools are anything more than barely workable? Ugh.
- FrojoS 14y ago"[..] IE6 fell 0.37 percentage points (losing everything it somehow managed to gain the previous month)[..]" And whats their error margin? Sounds like bad journalism to me.
- leeoniya 14y agoevery time these statistics come up, i will post the last 2 weeks from my own server. pretty much 100% US/CA audience. site category is home remodeling, DIY, contractors. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgXFz9xLvI4UdHpGR2RNTlpweENyTEhyWExrWXdiRUE https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgXFz9xLvI4UdHp...