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I absolutely think there should be ramifications for such acts. What I find bizarre, is that China and Russia do this daily, and "oh well". If such states sen
by b112 8mo ago
I absolutely think there should be ramifications for such acts.
What I find bizarre, is that China and Russia do this daily, and "oh well". If such states sent over people to, you know, do damage using a bomb instead of a hack, there'd be trouble. As in, two towers were damaged, and it set off 20 years of war ... mostly against the wrong states.
Yet if you cause death via subtle means, such as reducing hospital infra, or attack and destroy infra via hacking, meh. Oh well!
This sort of falls inline with all other compute issues that appear before all elected bodies on the planet. An immense lack of understanding and comprehension, coupled with an inability to act.
- s5300 8mo ago[dead]
- WD-42 8mo agoWell their country is currently being bombed, curious what additional ramifications you’d like to see?
- pavel_lishin 8mo agoI think he's pointing out that we're not bombing China or Russia or North Korea, or any other states, over similar attacks.
- gzread 8mo agoWell they're not... um... what was it that Iran was doing to make us bomb them again?
- RankingMember 8mo agoplainly: they're being punished for not having nuclear weapons already
- kelipso 8mo agoBecause they have nukes unlike Iran.
- goatlover 8mo agoAnd one wonders why Iran wants a nuke. It's not to wipe out Israel and the US as some hawks in Congress falsely claim. It's the same reason North Korea developed nukes. Terrible regimes, but they understand countries with nukes don't get bombed or invaded. That's Ukraine's tragedy.
- RankingMember 8mo agoyeah, if there's one clear takeaway from the US-involved conflicts of the past several decades, it's that nukes are the key to making the U.S. keep its hands to itself
- b112 8mo ago[flagged]
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- we_have_options 8mo agoOr we could see this as a ramification for US bombing their country and DIRECTLY killing people, including many non-combatants. Like children, at school https://www.npr.org/2026/03/11/nx-s1-5744981/pentagon-iran-missile-school-hegseth https://www.npr.org/2026/03/11/nx-s1-5744981/pentagon-iran-m...
- b112 8mo ago[flagged]
- gzread 8mo agoI'm not quite getting your point. Are you saying that when Iran kills children, we should get angry and bomb them, and when the US kills children, other countries shouldn't get angry and bomb the US?
- lostmsu 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#Involuntary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#Involuntary See the accidental death section. Generally not considered a crime on its own.
- Orygin 8mo ago> To highlight that point, the US cares enough to investigate and discover just how such an unfortunate act happened. I trust the US as much as Iran or North Korea to investigate themselves and find no fault.
- thrance 8mo agoSo, since the Iranian regime killed protesters, it's OK for the US regime to obliterate a girl's school? And then lie about it? I'm having trouble following your reasoning.
- goatlover 8mo agoTell me again why was this war necessary for the US? What sort of threat did Iran pose? Wasn't their nuclear program "obliterated" when we bombed them last year? Every time someone from the Trump administration talks, it's a different reason.
- dmix 8mo agoThe only reason the US government doesn't make a big deal about hacking is because they dont want blowback from their own intelligence collection operations. It's like how every country knows embassies are full of spies but they let them operate as diplomats anyway because they do the same thing.
- WD-42 8mo ago> It's like how every country knows embassies are full of spies but they let them operate as diplomats anyway Or in Iran’s case, they don’t.
- the_af 8mo agoIs it an "oh well" situation in this case though? There seem to be actual people getting killed, in an actual war (by another name, but we all know it's a war, with missiles and airplanes and bombs).
- camillomiller 8mo agoYep, the US should kill another 170 kids in a school, for example, right? Edit: this is one of those case where I would really love to see the face of the one who downvoted this comment.
- akramachamarei 8mo agoI didn't downvote you, but you probably were because your comment is an impertinent strawman. The faces of your downvoters are normal people who care about the quality of the discussion.
- 1970-01-01 8mo agoRamifications include firing more security engineers and replacing them with shoddy AI tools, pencil whipping any issues that cost time and money to fix immediately, or just ignoring the problem entirely until it happens a few more times.
- varjag 8mo ago> If such states sent over people to, you know, do damage using a bomb instead of a hack, there'd be trouble. Russia have been running assassinations and sabotage programme using poison, bombs, small arms and radioactive material in the West for years with no real repercussions.
- xyclonbee 8mo agoWhat does Israel gain by instigating war between USA and China right now?
- skybrian 8mo agoA problem with this line of reasoning is that the people killed by your hypothetical bombs are likely not the ones responsible for the previous attack, even if they do live in the same country. Warfare is in general a very poor system of justice and probably shouldn't be considered as such.
- surgical_fire 8mo agoTheir country is being attacked. They are the aggressed party. What ramifications you think is going to happen? They already have their country being bombed.