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It's starting to show its age, but I've been using a 2019 MacBook Pro with the Intel chip and 16GB of memory. Still handles multiple terminal sessions with Clau

by rob 7mo ago

It's starting to show its age, but I've been using a 2019 MacBook Pro with the Intel chip and 16GB of memory. Still handles multiple terminal sessions with Claude Code and Codex simultaneously, building in Xcode, running Docker in the background, etc. (Maybe the fans sometimes sound like they're a jet engine taking off…) Finally just put an order in for a new 16" MBP M5 Max with 48GB memory only because it looks like they're going to stop supporting the Intel stuff this year and no more software updates. It'll probably be obsolete in six months with the rate things are going, but I've been averaging seven years between upgrades so it should be good!

Robdel12 7mo ago
Oh my. All I have to say is cherish the first week of your M* experience. :D When I got rid of my intel MBP (it was an i7) for my MBA it was astonishing how fast and smooth it was. So, the m5 with 48gb of ram will be amazing.
- cipehr 7mo ago
  I agree. It was utterly ridiculous how noticeable the improvement was. I was doing z3 solving for ICFP contest the first couple weeks after getting the m1 air. And it was consistently smoking my teammates maxed out i7 MBP
- swiftcoder 7mo ago
  Hah. yeah. I went from a 64GB i9 to a 32GB M2, and it was night and fucking day
eru 7mo ago
Well, Claude Cod and Codex should be doing most of their heavy lifting in the cloud?
- amonith 7mo ago
  Sort of, they have no "hands", LLMs can only respond that they want to execute a tool/command. So they do that a lot to: read files, search for things, compile projects, run tests, run other arbitrary commands, fetch stuff from the internet etc. Obviously the LLM inference is super heavy, but the actual work / task at hand is being executed on the device.
- exe34 7mo ago
  yeah I run Claude code on a 2013 Mac book air that refuses to die, I don't think it's very compute heavy.
- coldtea 7mo ago
  The AI part yes. But they also use quite inefficient rendering on the cli.
ghaff 7mo ago
I use a 2015 MacBook Pro all the time--like right now. It does have 16GB of memory. It's what sits on my dining room table where I do most of my writing/browsing and which I take for travel. I do have an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro in my office but my downstairs "office" is a lot lighter and airier.
- reaperducer 7mo ago
  I use a 2015 MacBook Pro all the time--like right now. I have a 2010 MacBook Air that I still use when traveling. The battery is completely shot, but it works fine when plugged in. And if I'm on the road, I don't use my computer until I get to the hotel anyway. And even then, it's just fine for e-mail, browsing, and even Photoshop.
  - ghaff 7mo ago
    I think this one had a battery replacement because it was bulging. But it's definitely in the class of devices that, if it gets swiped or lost, is basically in the <ehh> category as opposed to my newer one. Am probably giving newish iPad and magnetic keyboard a spin on my next trip mostly to see how it goes.
  - qingcharles 7mo ago
    I have one of these (it's my only Mac), but it only has 2GB of RAM, so it's kinda rough. I tried Mint on it, but IIRC it might not have the GPU drivers? I just bought it a new SSD which helped a bit.
  - ngai_aku 7mo ago
    Linux? Outdated version of macOS?
conception 7mo ago
Try running Teams on it though!
oldandboring 7mo ago
Former employee of mine had the 2019 MBP as well. After a few years he had the same problem with the fans -- if you haven't already, pop it open and clean the fans and vents. You'll probably need a little brush along with compressed air. Lots of stuff comes up on Google. Great machine btw. Good luck!
- ayewo 7mo ago
  Thanks for this tip! The fans of mine have been spinning up regularly, especially noticeable when I upgraded to Tahoe a few days ago.
pauljonas 7mo ago
Still using that 2019 MBP (16 inch, 16G memory) as a daily work machine. Is still handling the load well, though at times, fans get quite loud, especially with all the background processes and VM setups. Hope to get a new MBP this year, as being on Intel means lots of software that won't run on it (ie, Codex app for example, won't run on Intel Macs)

by rob 7mo ago

Robdel12 7mo ago

Oh my. All I have to say is cherish the first week of your M* experience. :D When I got rid of my intel MBP (it was an i7) for my MBA it was astonishing how fast and smooth it was. So, the m5 with 48gb of ram will be amazing.

cipehr 7mo ago
I agree. It was utterly ridiculous how noticeable the improvement was. I was doing z3 solving for ICFP contest the first couple weeks after getting the m1 air. And it was consistently smoking my teammates maxed out i7 MBP
swiftcoder 7mo ago
Hah. yeah. I went from a 64GB i9 to a 32GB M2, and it was night and fucking day

eru 7mo ago

Well, Claude Cod and Codex should be doing most of their heavy lifting in the cloud?

amonith 7mo ago
Sort of, they have no "hands", LLMs can only respond that they want to execute a tool/command. So they do that a lot to: read files, search for things, compile projects, run tests, run other arbitrary commands, fetch stuff from the internet etc. Obviously the LLM inference is super heavy, but the actual work / task at hand is being executed on the device.
exe34 7mo ago
yeah I run Claude code on a 2013 Mac book air that refuses to die, I don't think it's very compute heavy.
coldtea 7mo ago
The AI part yes. But they also use quite inefficient rendering on the cli.

ghaff 7mo ago

I use a 2015 MacBook Pro all the time--like right now. It does have 16GB of memory. It's what sits on my dining room table where I do most of my writing/browsing and which I take for travel. I do have an Apple Silicon MacBook Pro in my office but my downstairs "office" is a lot lighter and airier.

reaperducer 7mo ago
I use a 2015 MacBook Pro all the time--like right now. I have a 2010 MacBook Air that I still use when traveling. The battery is completely shot, but it works fine when plugged in. And if I'm on the road, I don't use my computer until I get to the hotel anyway. And even then, it's just fine for e-mail, browsing, and even Photoshop.
- ghaff 7mo ago
  I think this one had a battery replacement because it was bulging. But it's definitely in the class of devices that, if it gets swiped or lost, is basically in the <ehh> category as opposed to my newer one. Am probably giving newish iPad and magnetic keyboard a spin on my next trip mostly to see how it goes.
- qingcharles 7mo ago
  I have one of these (it's my only Mac), but it only has 2GB of RAM, so it's kinda rough. I tried Mint on it, but IIRC it might not have the GPU drivers? I just bought it a new SSD which helped a bit.
- ngai_aku 7mo ago
  Linux? Outdated version of macOS?

conception 7mo ago

Try running Teams on it though!

oldandboring 7mo ago

Former employee of mine had the 2019 MBP as well. After a few years he had the same problem with the fans -- if you haven't already, pop it open and clean the fans and vents. You'll probably need a little brush along with compressed air. Lots of stuff comes up on Google. Great machine btw. Good luck!

ayewo 7mo ago
Thanks for this tip! The fans of mine have been spinning up regularly, especially noticeable when I upgraded to Tahoe a few days ago.

pauljonas 7mo ago

Still using that 2019 MBP (16 inch, 16G memory) as a daily work machine. Is still handling the load well, though at times, fans get quite loud, especially with all the background processes and VM setups. Hope to get a new MBP this year, as being on Intel means lots of software that won't run on it (ie, Codex app for example, won't run on Intel Macs)