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I read what doctloud does. So who uses them. Went here https://www.dotcloud.com/pricing.html https://www.dotcloud.com/pricing.html Selected mysql and php its $

I read what doctloud does. So who uses them. Went here https://www.dotcloud.com/pricing.html https://www.dotcloud.com/pricing.html Selected mysql and php its $17.28. That's costly, with a little more one could take a linode server.

bmelton 14y ago
I've got (at least count) three Linode servers, 2 prgmr Xen instances and a couple of dedicated boxes, and I still use Dotcloud for public facing projects. What Dotcloud affords me is the ability to not have to worry about system administration. I don't have to concern myself with whether or not my log files are public, or if I have PHP globals enabled, or if Apache is leaking user details. I can deploy to Dotcloud with a single command (which can be automated, scripted or even remoted,) and I don't have to worry about scaling concerns.
shykes 14y ago
Hi there, we like to say that dotCloud is cheaper than regular hosting at equivalent level of best practice. For example, compared to AWS (pulled from http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4694689 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4694689): * For a clean architecture you want to isolate each Mongo and node process in its own system. So you need 6 instances, not 3. * You'll need load-balancers in front of these node instances. That costs extra on AWS, and is included on dotCloud. * Did you include the cost of bandwidth and disk IO in your estimate? Those are extra on AWS, but included on dotCloud. * Monitoring is extra on AWS. It's included on dotCloud. * I love to have a sandbox version of my entire stack, with the exact same setup but separate from production. That's an extra 2 instances on AWS (+io +bandwidth +load-balancing +monitoring). It's free on dotCloud, and I can create unlimited numbers of sandboxes which is killer for team development: 1 sandbox per developer! * We only charge for ram usable by your application and database. AWS charges for server memory - including the overhead of the system and the various daemons you'll need to run. * For small apps specifically, you can allocate memory in much smaller increments on dotCloud, which means you can start at a lower price-point: the smallest increment is 32MB. I didn't even get into the real value-add of dotCloud: all the work you won't have to do, including security upgrades, centralized log collection, waking up at 4am to check on broken EBS volumes, dealing with AWS support (which is truly the most horrible support in the World, and we pay them a lot of money). + Our support team is awesome and might even fix a bug in your own code if you're lucky :)

bmelton 14y ago

I've got (at least count) three Linode servers, 2 prgmr Xen instances and a couple of dedicated boxes, and I still use Dotcloud for public facing projects. What Dotcloud affords me is the ability to not have to worry about system administration. I don't have to concern myself with whether or not my log files are public, or if I have PHP globals enabled, or if Apache is leaking user details. I can deploy to Dotcloud with a single command (which can be automated, scripted or even remoted,) and I don't have to worry about scaling concerns.

shykes 14y ago

Hi there, we like to say that dotCloud is cheaper than regular hosting at equivalent level of best practice. For example, compared to AWS (pulled from http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4694689 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4694689): * For a clean architecture you want to isolate each Mongo and node process in its own system. So you need 6 instances, not 3. * You'll need load-balancers in front of these node instances. That costs extra on AWS, and is included on dotCloud. * Did you include the cost of bandwidth and disk IO in your estimate? Those are extra on AWS, but included on dotCloud. * Monitoring is extra on AWS. It's included on dotCloud. * I love to have a sandbox version of my entire stack, with the exact same setup but separate from production. That's an extra 2 instances on AWS (+io +bandwidth +load-balancing +monitoring). It's free on dotCloud, and I can create unlimited numbers of sandboxes which is killer for team development: 1 sandbox per developer! * We only charge for ram usable by your application and database. AWS charges for server memory - including the overhead of the system and the various daemons you'll need to run. * For small apps specifically, you can allocate memory in much smaller increments on dotCloud, which means you can start at a lower price-point: the smallest increment is 32MB. I didn't even get into the real value-add of dotCloud: all the work you won't have to do, including security upgrades, centralized log collection, waking up at 4am to check on broken EBS volumes, dealing with AWS support (which is truly the most horrible support in the World, and we pay them a lot of money). + Our support team is awesome and might even fix a bug in your own code if you're lucky :)