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I think this refers to "bombing for peace". Sure the West should have just let Iran nuke whoever it wanted.
by jojobas 8mo ago
I think this refers to "bombing for peace". Sure the West should have just let Iran nuke whoever it wanted.
- RobotToaster 8mo agoIran wasn't going to nuke anyone. They want Islam to dominate the world, that can't happen if there isn't a world left to dominate.
- LtWorf 8mo agoI agree with the first part of what you said. Mostly because they didn't have nukes to begin with.
- iwontberude 8mo agoI think it’s possible they already have nukes and want to wait for Israel to over extend themselves so that they can use them for a first strike with maximum efficacy. They’ve done a lot for Russia. The idea that they don’t have nuclear armament is somewhat hard for me to believe.
- LtWorf 8mo agoThe whole point of having nukes is letting everyone know you have them.
- iwontberude 7mo agoIt depends on your military doctrine, if facing a first strike adversary you wouldn’t necessarily want them to believe you capable.
- vkou 8mo agoNuclear weapons are a MAD red line that will result in total annihilation of the attacker. They are only useful in a defensive capacity. This kind of aggression, however, does seem to make their value as a deterrent clear. Observe how nobody is fucking with North Korea like they did with Iraq or Venezuela.
- sofixa 8mo ago> Nuclear weapons are a MAD red line that will result in total annihilation of the attacker. They are only useful in a defensive capacity. Also in a "if I'm going down, everyone else is going down with me", which is Ian's strategy in this war (for good reasons). If the IRGC had nukes, and was severely threatened (like, killing the Supreme Leader and threatening to kill all of the replacements until they bend to the US/Israel will), they might have decided to go out "with style".
- sail2boat3 8mo agoIsn't this exactly what the Samson Option represents?
- haritha-j 8mo agoYes, but the whole point of having nukes as a deterrent is that the US wouldn't have arbitrarily killed their leader in the first place. "If i'm going down, everyone else is going down" is the feature, not a bug. To be clear I don't like the idea of MAD one bit. But this is indeed how it's meant to work.
- jojobas 8mo agoNorth Korea's main leverage is not the 3.5 nukes they have, it's Seoul in the sights of their very conventional arty. Unlike NK, Iran has a leadership that declared destroying some countries their raison d'etre.
- bitwize 8mo agoNothing geopolitical about it in the sense I intended, except as a reference to the Vietnam-era catchphrase. It's simply a case of "putting spyware on everybody's corporate PC for security is like fucking for virginity".