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So... For each election, I have to register anew and the agency in charge has a backoffice is cross-checking this against... something? I guess they would first

by Muromec 8mo ago

So... For each election, I have to register anew and the agency in charge has a backoffice is cross-checking this against... something? I guess they would first look if I was voting the last time? What if my birth certificate or whatever is from a different place. Do they assume I'm not risking using a forgery over politics (it's a fair assumption I would say)?

WalterBright 8mo ago
My original birth certificate was old and had decayed, so I wanted a new one. I googled "how do I get a copy of my birth certificate", followed the instructions, and received a brand new certificate. (I was a bit concerned because the hospital I was born in had been razed and the whole area redeveloped 50 years ago, but there was no problem.) A couple weeks ago I went to the nearest DMV and got a RealID. It took 15 minutes. (The RealID is proof of citizenship and residency.) The DMV people and the people in the passport office are very helpful in how to get the necessary proof.
- Muromec 8mo ago
  >The DMV people and the people in the passport office are very helpful in how to get the necessary proof. That's nice and matches my obviously-not-north-american experience. Have you considered that you are not the target audience of the voter suppression because of something ?
  - WalterBright 8mo ago
    Please elucidate what something is?
yellowapple 8mo ago
> For each election, I have to register anew No. You register once and that applies to all future elections (at least until you update your registration for whatever reason, e.g. because you changed addresses). > and the agency in charge has a backoffice is cross-checking this against... something? Against the state's voter registration database, usually maintained by that state's Secretary of State or equivalent. > What if my birth certificate or whatever is from a different place. If the birth certificate is from somewhere within the US, then validating the birth certificate is usually just a matter of contacting the county clerk where you were born. If it's from somewhere outside the US, then you ain't eligible to vote anyway unless you've gone through the process of becoming a naturalized citizen — in which case you'd have more appropriate identifying documents that you'd use in place of your birth certificate.
- Muromec 8mo ago
  >If it's from somewhere outside the US, then you ain't eligible to vote anyway unless you've gone through the process of becoming a naturalized citizen It's nitpicking, but you can be a citizen by birth without either having a birth certificate from a country you are citizen of and without naturalizing, but you will have some other document in that case too. >Against the state's voter registration database, usually maintained by that state's Secretary of State or equivalent. Isn't it circular? To be in the database you are checked against the database?
  - yellowapple 8mo ago
    > Isn't it circular? To be in the database you are checked against the database? It's turtles^Wdatabases all the way down.

by Muromec 8mo ago

WalterBright 8mo ago

My original birth certificate was old and had decayed, so I wanted a new one. I googled "how do I get a copy of my birth certificate", followed the instructions, and received a brand new certificate. (I was a bit concerned because the hospital I was born in had been razed and the whole area redeveloped 50 years ago, but there was no problem.) A couple weeks ago I went to the nearest DMV and got a RealID. It took 15 minutes. (The RealID is proof of citizenship and residency.) The DMV people and the people in the passport office are very helpful in how to get the necessary proof.

Muromec 8mo ago
>The DMV people and the people in the passport office are very helpful in how to get the necessary proof. That's nice and matches my obviously-not-north-american experience. Have you considered that you are not the target audience of the voter suppression because of something ?
- WalterBright 8mo ago
  Please elucidate what something is?

yellowapple 8mo ago

> For each election, I have to register anew No. You register once and that applies to all future elections (at least until you update your registration for whatever reason, e.g. because you changed addresses). > and the agency in charge has a backoffice is cross-checking this against... something? Against the state's voter registration database, usually maintained by that state's Secretary of State or equivalent. > What if my birth certificate or whatever is from a different place. If the birth certificate is from somewhere within the US, then validating the birth certificate is usually just a matter of contacting the county clerk where you were born. If it's from somewhere outside the US, then you ain't eligible to vote anyway unless you've gone through the process of becoming a naturalized citizen — in which case you'd have more appropriate identifying documents that you'd use in place of your birth certificate.

Muromec 8mo ago
>If it's from somewhere outside the US, then you ain't eligible to vote anyway unless you've gone through the process of becoming a naturalized citizen It's nitpicking, but you can be a citizen by birth without either having a birth certificate from a country you are citizen of and without naturalizing, but you will have some other document in that case too. >Against the state's voter registration database, usually maintained by that state's Secretary of State or equivalent. Isn't it circular? To be in the database you are checked against the database?
- yellowapple 8mo ago
  > Isn't it circular? To be in the database you are checked against the database? It's turtles^Wdatabases all the way down.