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An important update on our team

34 points by snafu109 7mo ago

pprotas 7mo ago
Won’t even let em keep their laptop
- steve_adams_86 7mo ago
  I suspect their equipment is worth a lot more than $1000 USD. Bummer.
Trasmatta 7mo ago
> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales, while strengthening our financial profile. I'm sure it's such a relief to the humans being fired that their salaries will be used for AI and enterprise sales.
- lxgr 7mo ago
  If that's the reason, I much prefer executives being transparent about it, rather than sugar coating or outright making up excuses.
lucketone 7mo ago
Tech company who messes with browser’s ctrl+f should be outcompeted.
- kermatt 7mo ago
  So should browsers that allow it to be messed with.
  - lucketone 7mo ago
    Good point
Postosuchus 7mo ago
Oh no! Yet another "difficult but right decision" (tm) to self-fund further investment in AI.
- andrekandre 7mo ago
  ngl this comment triggered me lol: their product management must be completely dysfunctional because they keep shoving that stupid rovo ai in every frequently clicked area now and causes accidental rewrites of pages im working on... or page summaries that literally hallucinate meeting notes for meetings that never happened... like do they even care about customers are actually wanting to do or just shove dysfunctional ai that nobody wants
  - thin_carapace 7mo ago
    atlassian suite was functionally fine prior to AI, i have noticed nothing but constant downgrades to the UX since. for example, summarizing a Jira ticket with AI achieves nothing useful (seeing as a Jira ticket is in itself a summarization) while burning compute, clogging the visual spectrum, and slowing down rendering. has anyone actually benefitted from AI being thrown everywhere in this service?
    - gnabgib 7mo ago
      No. No it wasn't. It has been despised at least 10 years 2017: Trello, “Jira Sucks”, and Tool Dysfunction https://cutle.fish/blog/trello-jira-sucks-and-tool-dysfunction https://cutle.fish/blog/trello-jira-sucks-and-tool-dysfuncti... 2019: Over 16 reasons why Jira and Confluence suck https://jackthenomad.com/15-reasons-why-jira-and-confluence-suck-37507361cbdf?gi=679b08d4e4a8 https://jackthenomad.com/15-reasons-why-jira-and-confluence-... 2020: Everyone hates Jira, but no one stops using it https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/izu5u3/everyone_hates_jira_but_no_one_stops_using_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/izu5u3/eve... 2020: 7 reasons why use of Jira can be frustrating, part 1 (lol the domain) https://community.atlassian.com/forums/Jira-articles/7-reasons-why-use-of-Jira-can-be-frustrating-part-1/ba-p/1013802 https://community.atlassian.com/forums/Jira-articles/7-reaso... 2020: jira is bad https://quietlife.net/2020/06/30/jira-is-bad https://quietlife.net/2020/06/30/jira-is-bad 2021: Why Does Jira Suck and What to Do About It https://chrisdwan.medium.com/why-does-jira-suck-and-what-to-do-about-it-a699cf31b40f https://chrisdwan.medium.com/why-does-jira-suck-and-what-to-... 2022: I fucking hate Jira https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/vgvt3m/i_fucking_hate_jira/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/vgvt3m/i_fucki...
bigwheels 7mo ago
At least the stock went up two bucks after the announcement, $75 -> $77: https://www.google.com/search?q=atlassian+stock&rlz=1C5GCEM_enUS1171US1171&oq=atlassian+stock https://www.google.com/search?q=atlassian+stock&rlz=1C5GCEM_... Way to go, $TEAM.
upghost 7mo ago
> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales while strengthening our financial profile. Some quotes from the video: > ...at the same time, we're a people company. > Your work will live on in our products. > Doing the right thing for Atlassian while acting with humanity and doing the right thing for all those on all sides of this set of decisions. Wow. There's a lot to unpack here.
- Maxious 7mo ago
  > Mr Cannon-Brookes told investors he “couldn’t be more bullish” about the opportunities ahead, despite relentlessly selling his own shares in the company daily. The Nightly reports he kept selling 7665 shares on a daily basis even in the month prior to the results at prices ranging from $US161.11 (AU$227) a share on January 8 to $US105.14 on February 4. > While ordinary Aussies are asked to make big changes, the 46-year-old decided to treat himself to a ritzy new private jet late last year, admitting to a “deep internal conflict” over the carbon-heavy method of travel. > The Atlassian co-founder and CEO bought a Bombardier 7500 and will use it to travel across his vast business operations, which include a minority stake in the Utah Jazz NBA team and a sponsorship deal with Formula 1. https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/aussie-sacks-1600-after-net-worth-decimated/ar-AA1YqOEQ https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/aussie-sacks-1600-afte...
ChrisArchitect 7mo ago
Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47343156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47343156
joeyguerra 7mo ago
When I see atlassian, I always think of the road to Abilene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox
mpalmer 7mo ago
> Our approach is not “AI replaces people”. > But [..] AI does[..] change the [..] number of roles required in certain areas. I can't believe how little this is paraphrasing it.
lovich 7mo ago
> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales, while strengthening our financial profile. > Our approach is not “AI replaces people”. So I guess we’re only one step away from Andors “They don’t even bother to lie to us badly” given how bald faced this lie is.

34 points by snafu109 7mo ago

pprotas 7mo ago

Won’t even let em keep their laptop

steve_adams_86 7mo ago
I suspect their equipment is worth a lot more than $1000 USD. Bummer.

Trasmatta 7mo ago

> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales, while strengthening our financial profile. I'm sure it's such a relief to the humans being fired that their salaries will be used for AI and enterprise sales.

lxgr 7mo ago
If that's the reason, I much prefer executives being transparent about it, rather than sugar coating or outright making up excuses.

lucketone 7mo ago

Tech company who messes with browser’s ctrl+f should be outcompeted.

kermatt 7mo ago
So should browsers that allow it to be messed with.
- lucketone 7mo ago
  Good point

Postosuchus 7mo ago

Oh no! Yet another "difficult but right decision" (tm) to self-fund further investment in AI.

andrekandre 7mo ago
ngl this comment triggered me lol: their product management must be completely dysfunctional because they keep shoving that stupid rovo ai in every frequently clicked area now and causes accidental rewrites of pages im working on... or page summaries that literally hallucinate meeting notes for meetings that never happened... like do they even care about customers are actually wanting to do or just shove dysfunctional ai that nobody wants
- thin_carapace 7mo ago
  atlassian suite was functionally fine prior to AI, i have noticed nothing but constant downgrades to the UX since. for example, summarizing a Jira ticket with AI achieves nothing useful (seeing as a Jira ticket is in itself a summarization) while burning compute, clogging the visual spectrum, and slowing down rendering. has anyone actually benefitted from AI being thrown everywhere in this service?
  - gnabgib 7mo ago
    No. No it wasn't. It has been despised at least 10 years 2017: Trello, “Jira Sucks”, and Tool Dysfunction https://cutle.fish/blog/trello-jira-sucks-and-tool-dysfunction https://cutle.fish/blog/trello-jira-sucks-and-tool-dysfuncti... 2019: Over 16 reasons why Jira and Confluence suck https://jackthenomad.com/15-reasons-why-jira-and-confluence-suck-37507361cbdf?gi=679b08d4e4a8 https://jackthenomad.com/15-reasons-why-jira-and-confluence-... 2020: Everyone hates Jira, but no one stops using it https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/izu5u3/everyone_hates_jira_but_no_one_stops_using_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ExperiencedDevs/comments/izu5u3/eve... 2020: 7 reasons why use of Jira can be frustrating, part 1 (lol the domain) https://community.atlassian.com/forums/Jira-articles/7-reasons-why-use-of-Jira-can-be-frustrating-part-1/ba-p/1013802 https://community.atlassian.com/forums/Jira-articles/7-reaso... 2020: jira is bad https://quietlife.net/2020/06/30/jira-is-bad https://quietlife.net/2020/06/30/jira-is-bad 2021: Why Does Jira Suck and What to Do About It https://chrisdwan.medium.com/why-does-jira-suck-and-what-to-do-about-it-a699cf31b40f https://chrisdwan.medium.com/why-does-jira-suck-and-what-to-... 2022: I fucking hate Jira https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/vgvt3m/i_fucking_hate_jira/ https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/vgvt3m/i_fucki...

bigwheels 7mo ago

At least the stock went up two bucks after the announcement, $75 -> $77: https://www.google.com/search?q=atlassian+stock&rlz=1C5GCEM_enUS1171US1171&oq=atlassian+stock https://www.google.com/search?q=atlassian+stock&rlz=1C5GCEM_... Way to go, $TEAM.

upghost 7mo ago

> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales while strengthening our financial profile. Some quotes from the video: > ...at the same time, we're a people company. > Your work will live on in our products. > Doing the right thing for Atlassian while acting with humanity and doing the right thing for all those on all sides of this set of decisions. Wow. There's a lot to unpack here.

Maxious 7mo ago
> Mr Cannon-Brookes told investors he “couldn’t be more bullish” about the opportunities ahead, despite relentlessly selling his own shares in the company daily. The Nightly reports he kept selling 7665 shares on a daily basis even in the month prior to the results at prices ranging from $US161.11 (AU$227) a share on January 8 to $US105.14 on February 4. > While ordinary Aussies are asked to make big changes, the 46-year-old decided to treat himself to a ritzy new private jet late last year, admitting to a “deep internal conflict” over the carbon-heavy method of travel. > The Atlassian co-founder and CEO bought a Bombardier 7500 and will use it to travel across his vast business operations, which include a minority stake in the Utah Jazz NBA team and a sponsorship deal with Formula 1. https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/aussie-sacks-1600-after-net-worth-decimated/ar-AA1YqOEQ https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/aussie-sacks-1600-afte...

ChrisArchitect 7mo ago

Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47343156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47343156

joeyguerra 7mo ago

When I see atlassian, I always think of the road to Abilene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox

mpalmer 7mo ago

> Our approach is not “AI replaces people”. > But [..] AI does[..] change the [..] number of roles required in certain areas. I can't believe how little this is paraphrasing it.

lovich 7mo ago

> We are doing this to self-fund further investment in AI and enterprise sales, while strengthening our financial profile. > Our approach is not “AI replaces people”. So I guess we’re only one step away from Andors “They don’t even bother to lie to us badly” given how bald faced this lie is.