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birth certificate is not the only form of ID

• Muromec 7mo ago
  How birth certificate is even a form of id? I don't understand.
  • zahlman 7mo ago
    ... Why wouldn't it be? It's an official document, with your name (and other verifiable details) on it, that nobody else is supposed to have.
    • Muromec 7mo ago
      I'm not supposed to vote for some other person too, but I could if spend some minimal amount of effort. The same applies to a birth certificate. The document itself says that someone had a name listed there, or at least that the authorities who issued it believed so about 20 years ago. If anything, the voters roll itself is more reliable for that matter (somebody still believed the same facts more recently). I mean, proof of possession is some level of assurance, which is better than nothing. Knowing my mothers maiden name and birth date is also some level of assurance (this of it, you don't know those about a random me in the internet, so you can't vote for me in the elections for the next 15 minutes at least). But what is a desired level of assurance for something so many people feel strongly about? Is it more or less compared to visiting porn websites, boarding a plane, drinking alcohol, crossing international border and driving a car on a public road?