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But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology

• Readerium 7mo ago
  Yes he is room-mates with.
  • cushychicken 7mo ago
    Love the interviews Dwarkesh sponsored with Sarah Paine from the Naval War College. Also, somewhat spitefully, find it funny that he has multiple roommates.
    • alecco 7mo ago
      Those ones were a bit on the nose, no?
      • _diyar 7mo ago
        How so? I enjoyed them, keeping in mind that the lecturer was a professor at a US naval war college.
        • alecco 7mo ago
          Would you like to know MORE?
          • randallsquared 7mo ago
            You are pattern matching to something that doesn't really fit, I think.
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      • cushychicken 7mo ago
        Not sure what you mean, but I’d never heard of Sarah Paine before that. I thought she gave a very concise yet nuanced view of the modern world order in her lectures for Dwarkesh.
    • brandall10 7mo ago
      I'm assuming he's in some sort of high-end communal housing, a trend that began emerging in SF ~15 years back ... ie. where multi-millionaire startup founders and the like choose it on purpose for the synergistic benefits.
• rustyhancock 7mo ago
  Also Anthropic has made very clear they align closely with the DoW. Really Anthropic doesn't seem to be fighting for anyone but a narrow subset of people. So who cares, none of the but AI providers are particularly ethical. Pick your poison as your conscious and needs allow.
  • jakeydus 7mo ago
    “Go now and die in what way seems best to you”
• mips_avatar 7mo ago
  He's roommates with an Anthropic researcher, I was roommates with a Google product manager I don't think I'm really bought out by Google.
  • Henchman21 7mo ago
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    • Analemma_ 7mo ago
      It is literally impossible to prove a negative, that’s how conspiracy thinking operates and it’s why fortunately the justice system operates on the opposite principle and requires proof of guilt. It’s true that in some circumstances we require avoiding even the appearance of impropriety or a conflict of interest, but that’s simply too large a burden to impose on everyone all of the time, especially for allegedly dire sins like “having a roommate who works for a Google”
  • iso-logi 7mo ago
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    • etrautmann 7mo ago
      What? Plenty of people prefer to live with roommates, especially in the bay.
    • linkregister 7mo ago
      Product managers aren't management. They manage the trajectory of a software initiative. They can be hired straight out of college. Rents in the San Francisco Bay area are too high to live a practical distance from job centers as a junior without roommates.
    • pibaker 7mo ago
      I don't know GP's situation. But in the case of the linked article, given anthropic's tie to the Bay Area "rationalist" community, one possible reason why the author has a roommate is he bought in to the rationalist "group house" culture and moved in with one of them.
• observationist 7mo ago
  It doesn't matter what you know so much as who you know. Networking is the most precious currency. He met the right people, got the right guests, and surfed a wave of fortunate occurrences. He was roommates with Dylan Patel of TheIjnformation, and John Y of Asionometry, and has since developed a wide range of high level industry contacts. Sometimes people succeed without earning it, and what matters is what they do with the success afterwards. I'd say Dwarkesh earned it, but got lucky and caught the right waves, and has surfed the hell out of his success. He's had consistently well informed, level headed takes, and has engaged the field with insight and honest curiousity. When I see people surf like that, I applaud it. There's nothing grifty or shady, he's just had a great series of excellent opportunities and has played them for everything they're worth. Once he had a few billionaires on, that was all the social cache he needed to continue attracting guests and high level researchers and other figures in AI.
  • alecco 7mo ago
    I might be old, but he strikes me as a shallow valley Bro. His CV has nothing of significance. But he had a lot of Big Tech guests and even that Navy intelligence woman. He got a boost by being endorsed by Bezos. It smells of BS to me. Again, maybe I'm just a grumpy greybeard and this is a Gen Z thing.
    • observationist 7mo ago
      I'm also a grumpy greybeard - but I've got nothing but respect for him grinding out some good podcasts and then being in the right place and right time to capitalize on connections. I see a lot of skepticism directed his way, but I view it as a lot like early dotcom winners. Catch the right wave and it's like winning the lottery, success far beyond what you'd normally be able to reach, and then you get the opportunity to show whether you can keep it or not. I appreciate a good success story, and it's awesome to see people win by catching a wave, and then hold on to it, showing that they can keep doing it at a higher level.
    • newyankee 7mo ago
      The algorithm rewards those guests who follow the trends, he rose the wave to be at the top very fast and now possibly has the leverage where the who's who in AI have to be on his podcast to broadcast their views
• cuuupid 7mo ago
  It's entirely fake, sure Palantir uses Claude, but it takes about 10 minutes to pull all their federal contracts and realize the little involvement they have in the kill chain is preliminary
• piyh 7mo ago
  >I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere He was first funded by FTX
  • alecco 7mo ago
    Holy rabbit hole. SBF was in Patel's previous podcast in July 2022 and FTX unraveled in November 2022. Hmm. https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/sbf https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/sbf > I flew to the Bahamas to interview Sam Bankman-Fried, the CEO of FTX! He talks about FTX’s plan to infiltrate traditional finance, giving $100m this year to AI + pandemic risk, scaling slowly + hiring A-players, and much more. And that was right in the middle of FTX being accused by many prominent people . April 29, 2022 https://x.com/AlderLaneEggs/status/1520023221294145536 https://x.com/AlderLaneEggs/status/1520023221294145536 June 20, 2022 https://x.com/MartyBent/status/1538645746655936519 https://x.com/MartyBent/status/1538645746655936519
    • lioeters 7mo ago
      Grifters gonna grift, and this one is well-connected.
    • piyh 7mo ago
      I clipped the SBF Dwarkesh interview for the relevant portion where he asks about co-mingling of funds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIbgUy0T8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIbgUy0T8U
• rib3ye 7mo ago
  In my view, this guy's podcast didn't get big talking about AI, it's best known for cold war history and foreign policy discussions with Sarah Paine of the U.S. Naval War College.
  • bblcla 7mo ago
    Dwarkesh definitely got big in Silicon Valley from his AI podcasts. He's one of the few people who can get famous researchers on and also have them say something genuinely new. After that, he become well-known to the general public through his Sarah Paine podcasts (which are excellent).
• serguzest 7mo ago
  It seems to me that AI target-selection systems are being used not just for efficiency, but as a way to distance military staff from responsibility for what they are killing. Current AI models naturally speculate and hallucinate if you don’t tightly constrain them. we see this all the time as software engineers when working with agentic coding. This creates a dangerous dynamic. AI can generate targets that a human operator might not be able to justify manually, and when something goes wrong the blame can always be shifted to the system, such as the recent incident where roughly 180 children were killed due to faulty targeting. Israel’s way of fighting this war looks more like pure destruction than a conventional military campaign, and AI systems like this are very easy to abuse in that context. At this point it’s clear that even the U.S. is willing to eliminate targets even when the collateral damage includes the person’s family or neighbors. I don’t think that would have been acceptable in previous administrations. Israel has lowered the bar. That may be why Anthropic moved early to denounce this kind of usage, even though they had previously partnered with the Department of War. Now let’s look at the statements made by Anthropic and Hegseth: https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/where-stand-department-war https://x.com/SecWar/status/2027507717469049070 https://x.com/SecWar/status/2027507717469049070 From Anthropic’s own statement, we hear that they have actually been quite closely partnered. In Hegseth’s tweet we see: “Anthropic will continue to provide the Department of War its services for a period of no more than six months to allow for a seamless transition to a better and more patriotic service.” This shows that Anthropic is still currently being actively used by the Department of War. My view is that Anthropic and its investors eventually realized that the American war machine will use their technology in reckless ways, and that this will certainly create a massive PR disaster or, in an ideal world, even legal consequences. That realization likely pushed them to adopt what they now frame as a more “humanitarian” position.
• tempodox 7mo ago
  Agreed. There is way too much money in flight to believe that anything people say in public is true. If there was ever a time to get rich as a spin doctor it’s now.