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Obligatory: never connect your tv to the internet, only use Apple TV for streaming

lenerdenator 7mo ago
That works... for now. It'd be trivial for them to introduce some sort of network connectivity check that would need to be completed before audiovisual signals come out of the device. I'm pretty sure they already have that in the pipeline. Why wouldn't they?
- pier25 7mo ago
  > Why wouldn't they? Plenty of places in the world with bad connectivity or people who can't afford an ISP.
  - Sharlin 7mo ago
    I doubt smart TV manufacturers care about those places or people.
    - pier25 7mo ago
      What manufacturer would prefer to not sell millions of TVs?
  - BigTTYGothGF 7mo ago
    Yeah but advertisers don't pay as much for those people.
mikestew 7mo ago
Obligatory: “but they can run Ethernet over HDMI!” Ignoring, of course, that no implementation has ever been observed in the wild, for purposes malicious or otherwise.
- recursive 7mo ago
  Obligatory: "but they could use a cellular modem". Noting grimly that plenty of cellular modems have been observed in the wild.
- everdrive 7mo ago
  The privacy crowd is terrible this way. All objections bear equal weight, and they cannot see things otherwise.
dlcarrier 7mo ago
I agree wholeheartedly to the first point, but then why undo that by using a set-top box that only works after phoning home? I'd rather the manufacturer not even know my IP address, let alone get a full login.
testing22321 7mo ago
One step better: never bring a tv into your home. It’s called an idiot box for a reason. My life has improved dramatically without one.
aquir 7mo ago
I do the same with my Samsung Smart TV but after a couple of months it stops playing videos from the USB drive or stops recognising the same drive. All I have to do is to turn off and unplug from the mains for 10-15 minutes and it starts working again!
crooked-v 7mo ago
I got a used Sceptre TV (https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...) and I'm extremely happy with it. No "smart" features, no bullshit, no slow menus, just a set of 4K@60Hz HDMI ports (newer models do 4K@120Hz) with ARC and CEC and a comprehensive set of display options.

That works... for now. It'd be trivial for them to introduce some sort of network connectivity check that would need to be completed before audiovisual signals come out of the device. I'm pretty sure they already have that in the pipeline. Why wouldn't they?

pier25 7mo ago
> Why wouldn't they? Plenty of places in the world with bad connectivity or people who can't afford an ISP.
- Sharlin 7mo ago
  I doubt smart TV manufacturers care about those places or people.
  - pier25 7mo ago
    What manufacturer would prefer to not sell millions of TVs?
- BigTTYGothGF 7mo ago
  Yeah but advertisers don't pay as much for those people.

mikestew 7mo ago

Obligatory: “but they can run Ethernet over HDMI!” Ignoring, of course, that no implementation has ever been observed in the wild, for purposes malicious or otherwise.

recursive 7mo ago
Obligatory: "but they could use a cellular modem". Noting grimly that plenty of cellular modems have been observed in the wild.
everdrive 7mo ago
The privacy crowd is terrible this way. All objections bear equal weight, and they cannot see things otherwise.

dlcarrier 7mo ago

I agree wholeheartedly to the first point, but then why undo that by using a set-top box that only works after phoning home? I'd rather the manufacturer not even know my IP address, let alone get a full login.

testing22321 7mo ago

One step better: never bring a tv into your home. It’s called an idiot box for a reason. My life has improved dramatically without one.

aquir 7mo ago

I do the same with my Samsung Smart TV but after a couple of months it stops playing videos from the USB drive or stops recognising the same drive. All I have to do is to turn off and unplug from the mains for 10-15 minutes and it starts working again!

crooked-v 7mo ago

I got a used Sceptre TV (https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...) and I'm extremely happy with it. No "smart" features, no bullshit, no slow menus, just a set of 4K@60Hz HDMI ports (newer models do 4K@120Hz) with ARC and CEC and a comprehensive set of display options.