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Nearly 21 million voting-age U.S. citizens do not have a current (non-expired) driver’s license. Just under 9%, or 20.76 million people, who are U.S. citizens a

Nearly 21 million voting-age U.S. citizens do not have a current (non-expired) driver’s license. Just under 9%, or 20.76 million people, who are U.S. citizens aged 18 or older do not have a non-expired driver’s license. Another 12% (28.6 million) have a non-expired license, but it does not have both their current address and current name. Additionally, just over 1% of adult U.S. citizens do not have any form of government-issued photo identification, which amounts to nearly 2.6 million people.[1] [1] https://cdce.umd.edu/sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20ID%202023%20survey%20Key%20Results%20Jan%202024%20%281%29.pdf https://cdce.umd.edu/sites/cdce.umd.edu/files/pubs/Voter%20I...

anonym29 7mo ago
If 10% of drivers lacked car insurance, would your solution be to remove the legal requirement to possess a valid insurance policy to operate a motor vehicle because it discriminates against the poor?
- beej71 7mo ago
  No. Because operating a motor vehicle is a very dangerous activity. This a very is a poor analogy that you have here.
  - anonym29 7mo ago
    Nobody ever voted someone dangerous into power? Was voting for Hitler a harmless act?
    - beej71 7mo ago
      And voter ID will fix this?
      - anonym29 7mo ago
        Does mandatory auto insurance prevent accidents from happening? If not, should we get rid of it?
        beej71 7mo ago
        No, but it does mitigate the damage... where are we in this analogy anymore? :laughing:
        anonym29 7mo ago
        You just answered your own question. Voter ID won't solve all the problems with illegitimate votes being cast, but it will mitigate the damage.
        beej71 7mo ago
        Except that it will cause far more damage than it mitigates.
        anonym29 7mo ago
        Does disenfranchising felons cause damage? What is the nature of the damage? Can it be quantified in any way?
- brendoelfrendo 7mo ago
  The poor have a right to vote, while they don't have a right to operate a motor vehicle. We can debate over how disenfranchising it is to be unable to drive in the US (very), but the law makes a pretty clear distinction between these two activities.

anonym29 7mo ago

If 10% of drivers lacked car insurance, would your solution be to remove the legal requirement to possess a valid insurance policy to operate a motor vehicle because it discriminates against the poor?

beej71 7mo ago
No. Because operating a motor vehicle is a very dangerous activity. This a very is a poor analogy that you have here.
- anonym29 7mo ago
  Nobody ever voted someone dangerous into power? Was voting for Hitler a harmless act?
  - beej71 7mo ago
    And voter ID will fix this?
    - anonym29 7mo ago
      Does mandatory auto insurance prevent accidents from happening? If not, should we get rid of it?
      - beej71 7mo ago
        No, but it does mitigate the damage... where are we in this analogy anymore? :laughing:
        anonym29 7mo ago
        You just answered your own question. Voter ID won't solve all the problems with illegitimate votes being cast, but it will mitigate the damage.
        beej71 7mo ago
        Except that it will cause far more damage than it mitigates.
        anonym29 7mo ago
        Does disenfranchising felons cause damage? What is the nature of the damage? Can it be quantified in any way?
brendoelfrendo 7mo ago
The poor have a right to vote, while they don't have a right to operate a motor vehicle. We can debate over how disenfranchising it is to be unable to drive in the US (very), but the law makes a pretty clear distinction between these two activities.