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You are basically arguing that Apple should make the laptops thinner at the expense of more fan noise, as the size of the aluminum chassis is directly proportio

You are basically arguing that Apple should make the laptops thinner at the expense of more fan noise, as the size of the aluminum chassis is directly proportional to the effectiveness of the passive heat dissipation but I suspect that for most people not hearing fan noise is much, much, much more important than a smaller chassis. What Apple is doing instead is not putting fans on the air and using a small chassis. For the pros there are fans but unless you put the laptop under heavy load they stay off. If anything I would go the reverse option and choose an even larger chassis for the Max models, but the manufacturing complexity of this may not be worth it given that a small proportion of the models sold will use the max chips.

dangus 8mo ago
That is not what I'm arguing. I am arguing that the base M5 chip-equipped MacBook Pros are heavy and thick laptops and have a lot of thermal headroom, while the M5 Pro and Max chips are being used in the same chassis. I think the MacBook Pro lineup should essentially be split so that the M5 model is in a thinner chassis while the M5 Pro and Max can continue to make those weight and thickness sacrifices. The M5 MacBook Pro is basically the same as a MacBook Air but with a fan to get that extra 10% performance boost, and better screen and I/O. It should essentially turn into a MacBook Air Plus or something like that. I think that the M5 base chip could easily operate in a much thinner/lighter chassis without the throttling of the fanless Air design while maintaining quiet performance. Also, the edge of the MacBook Pro is sharp and uncomfortable compared to other laptops when you are resting palms/arms on the laptop directly.