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- kotaKat 7mo agoHe never shook the name "Egohot" from the Playstation days and it's just continually reinforced every time he comes back out of the woodwork.
- red-iron-pine 7mo agocracking stuff is like 50% ego! that's the point
- aerhardt 7mo agoExactly the same on the other side though. If we believed that Dario Amodei or Sam Altman really knew how The Economy in its entirety worked, which is what they’re constantly pretending to do, then we should give them the central planning keys to the kingdom and declare communism tomorrow. I’m not being entirely facetious.
- mentalgear 7mo agoSound like a description of Elon and the X fanboys firehose.
- ap99 7mo agoYou don't have to be a fanboy to respect outcomes. He's got a winning track record. You may not agree with his politics or his morals but that's separate from his effectiveness. Specifically he's effective at stepping outside the domain he currently operates into create inside another.
- swiftcoder 7mo ago> He's got a winning track record What exactly would that be a winning track record in - as near as I can tell, his actual track record is in buying companies with an already-successful product team, and managing not to run them into the ground for a while?
- edgyquant 7mo agoYou have got to be kidding me, you can dislike someone without being this wrong. Hes literally the richest man in the world, started the largest space delivery company in the planet and has brought extreme returns for his investors in every endeavor he’s undertook.
- swiftcoder 7mo ago> literally the richest man in the world... extreme returns for his investors This isn't really a benchmark for effectiveness at anything beyond making money. I don't think anyone would dispute that he has an eye for investments (helped along by a healthy dose of the ol' silver spoon), not to mention a certain flair for convincing Uncle Sam to pick up the tab (i.e. a significant part of Tesla's growth relied on federal EV subsidies, and NASA heavily buying SpaceX launch capacity).
- ap99 7mo agoThere are a ton of haters on HN that don't like Musk for no other reason than they were told not to like him.
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- paulryanrogers 7mo agoEffectively helping elect a dictator who is in love with fossil fuels undercuts at lot of his "wins". Never mind the Nazi saluting, fraudulent advertising, or bypassing safety regulations.
- StilesCrisis 7mo agoAs a 2018 Tesla owner I strongly disagree with the idea that Elon's got a track record of success. The Model Y was their last successful product and it's just a stretched Model 3. FSD is not there. Robotaxi is an embarrassment. Cybertruck failed to deliver the gigacasted exoskeleton and shipped at double the original price point. Tesla has lost its way completely. (Also, Twitter has lost users and revenue ever since he got involved.)
- ap99 7mo agoOk now say three things that Elon has accomplished successfully in the past few years. If you can't then you're just speaking from emotion because they obviously exist.
- StilesCrisis 7mo agoI don't launch rockets into space, don't want a housekeeping robot, don't have a Twitter account, don't do ketamine, and have never been laid off from a government job, so I can't speak to any of those things which Elon has involved himself with more recently. My personal experience with Elon's promises is through the Model 3 which I do own, and essentially none of his promises for it have materialized. It hasn't morphed into a revenue-generating taxi which drives around strangers at night; it can't be summoned from across town (or even across a parking lot); it can't even safely drive itself without oversight, which was a goal only "months away" in 2019.
- mentalgear 7mo agoYou mean the tele-operated "autonomous Robots" ? Also, I'm waiting for >10 years now for his (really!) self-driving cars he promised would be just about 2 years away - every 2 years. SpaceX is what gives him leverage but the success of the reusable rockets are the engineers behind it - he's just the ketamine-driven hype-man that drives the stock via publicity now.
- fragmede 7mo agoThis trope also contains a trap, however. There have been major insights from people stepping outside their lane. Physicists went into econ and built a whole subfield called econophysics, with Pareto and Mandelbrot among them. Mathematicians have transformed biology with population genetics, which led scientists to predict how genes spread through populations. Or the SIR model for how infections spread. Hidden Markov models lead to gene finding. Closer to home, we have exceptional programmers making giant piles of money in finance, with Simons and his Medallion Fund returning some 66% before fees. And then there's Bitcoin.
- CrazyStat 7mo agoMany of the advances in biology in the middle of the 20th century were also helped along by physicists who switched to biology, often inspired by Schrodinger's What is Life? (1946). The list includes Francis Crick, Maurice Wilkins, and (coming from physical chemistry) Rosalind Franklin.
- cjs_ac 7mo agoThe common thread in all of your examples is people with mathematical training bringing mathematical formalisms to disciplines that lacked them. If you're just offering the wisdom gleaned from your life experiences, they're unlikely to be more insightful that anyone else's.
- braebo 7mo agoI’m biased as generalist, but I believe there is science behind the emergent insights afforded to us.
- mns 7mo agoDid he struck a nerve? All I'm seeing here are attacks on his person rather than discussing his post, which is not even that controversial, just some common sense stuff.
- swores 7mo agoI haven't yet read what the post submitted here is about, and personally I already have the same opinion as the comment you replied to. So I suspect they just wanted to comment about that rather than caring about this specific post, to remind people not to make the mistake of assuming that someone being well known doesn't automatically mean they always know what they're talking about.
- titanomachy 7mo agoIn fairness to geohot, who exactly is an expert on what's going to happen to the labour markets as a result of AI? Whose take should I be weighing more heavily than this one? Or should people just not bother sharing their opinions on this matter? Since it's impossible to predict the future.
- UncleMeat 7mo agoNobody can predict the future. But there are people whose job it is to deeply study the ways that various technologies have changed labor markets. Plenty of historians of science out there who can draw connections to and distinctions from the past.
- giancarlostoro 7mo agoAs someone who actually used to IRC with him back in the day... (man... I'm starting to feel old lol) he's kind of arrogant in his demeanor. He embodies the true spirit of a hacker in the sense of "Hacker" as in Hacker News, but he gets under everyone's skin over the years. This eventually takes a toll on people, and it mounts up. GeoHot could cure cancer, not put it in the blog post title, somewhere near the bottom, and all of HN would miss it and nobody would ever get the life saving treatment they could have gotten because of blind hatred. As much as I disliked my interactions with him, I would rather always take someone on a per-event basis, I see his new blog post for what it is and go from there. If it's trash, its trash, otherwise, I'll acknowledge it. I don't want HN to be another reddit where we blindly attack people.
- hombre_fatal 7mo agoI don't think HN needs the top comment to be a vague attack on someone in response to a blog post that the comment doesn't even interact with.
- bko 7mo agoYou must be new here. But seriously, I think the level of discourse has gone down considerably on HN in the last few years. I know people always say this in their forum but I think it's true. For instance, you'll see a post about GPT. Top comments are often "I use Claude", completely irrelevant. And then when [political thing happens] you get these passive-aggressive submissions with a lot of upvotes "how to switch to Claude". It's all just so exhausting. Constantly this moral grand-standing. Here is an example: > I switched not because I thought Claude was better at doing the things I want. I switched because I have come to believe OpenAI are a bad actor and I do not want to support them in any way. I’m pretty sure they would allow AGI to be used for truly evil purposes, and the events of this week have only convinced me further. Sir, this is a Wendy's
- kcoddington 7mo agoI almost posted this exact comment. You're not alone in thinking HN has changed for the worse in recent years. I get that it's just a reflection of cultural change and (over)reactions to anything adding friction. But for a forum dedicated to the "hacker" lifestyle, it's disappointing to see so much gatekeeping and FUD. I really wish this audience could start swinging back towards a response style that contains nuance and recognizes nuance. I find myself opening this site less and less each week.
- Klonoar 7mo agoThis forum was never dedicated to the hacker lifestyle, it has always been run by profit seeking investor classes.
- boringg 7mo agoIt feels like the quality of reddit collapsed over the last decade and a lot of the reddit style posting has come over here. Especially the examples above. To be fair both the good and the bad. The upvoting for political tribalism (whole political spectrum) is so truly mind bogglingly unintelligent and unoriginal. Its just brings the bar down.
- mpalmer 7mo agoBut how do I know stupid blogs are your niche, you don't even link to one in your profile!
- lunias 7mo agoGeohot is a bit of a jestermaxxer, but you really haven't presented much of an argument to support your conclusions.
- otterley 7mo agoA whatnow?
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- cpburns2009 7mo agoFrom what I gather the maxxer/maxxing suffix is young Gen Z slang for hyper fixation. Looksmaxxing is being obsessed with your looks. Jestermaxxing would then be an outrageous jester or clown for the sake of it? Maybe it's a synonym for rage-baiting? I'll return to guarding my lawn.
- keiferski 7mo agoHe’s written some posts I disagree with, but your comment here has no rebuttal, no counter arguments. I’m not sure you’ve even read the post.
- myrmidon 7mo agoDownvoted you, because: 1) You are not engaging with the content of the post at all. I would not mind if you actually articulated why you found this particular take so asinine/cringeworthy. But you don't. 2) You're unnecessarily uncharitable (the blog footer already reads "A home for poorly researched ideas that I find myself repeating a lot anyway"; there's no need to be so snarky).
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- bena 7mo agoWhat's also kind of whatever is that he cracked the iPhone and the PS3 and then... Most of the noise around him is who is hiring him and who is firing him. I can't think of anything that has been attributed to him in ages.