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* Markets should be free * Theft should be punished * There should be educational choice A lot of this depends what you consider to be “right” wing.

watwut 8mo ago
Neither of these is right wing value. They are right wing talking points right uses when it suits them and completely ignores when it does not suit them.
- red-iron-pine 8mo ago
  to put a finer point on it, those points exist where they have vested interests in extracting value out of those fields. no large right wing doner wants a free market, they want their restrictions removed, and to have a monopoly to the fullest extent
mghackerlady 8mo ago
Markets being completely free got us in this mess, and while sound on paper has so many potential ways to go wrong it should be controlled by the working class either directly or indirectly through voting Theft is a symptom, not a disease. Eliminate the disease and theft effectively disappears Educational choice deserves to be respected so long as it isn't being used to propagate objectively false information
- AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
  > Markets being completely free got us in this mess, and while sound on paper has so many potential ways to go wrong it should be controlled by the working class either directly or indirectly through voting Is that what got us into this mess? (Which mess?) Take medical care, for instance. Is that a free market? Not really, no. I mean, there are clearly markets that can be too free. No, you can't put poison in food and call it "free market". You can't roll through the farmer's market with guns and take everybody's stuff and call it "free market". There is a level of regulation where markets work best, and they work worse with either too much or too little regulation. But something like the medical market... most people can't shop around for insurance; their employer works with only one insurer. Most people can't shop around freely for doctors; they have to go to someone within their plan. And so on. That's not even close to a free market. > Theft is a symptom, not a disease. Eliminate the disease and theft effectively disappears Great. Now tell us what you think the disease is, and how you think we should eliminate it. > Educational choice deserves to be respected so long as it isn't being used to propagate objectively false information And who is going to authoritatively determine what is objectively false? You just appointed that person dictator of the educational system. (See previous remarks about free markets.)
  - superxpro12 8mo ago
    The educational system was working pretty well in terms of objectivity until the right wing started screaming about kids pissing in litter boxes and universities censoring right wing ideology. The reality is that right wing ideology is unpopular when exposed to objective discussion. Turns out most people dont agree those concepts. So now we have an administration who's actively working to censor universities to compel speech and censor ideas it doesnt like via lawsuits, executive orders, and funding elimination.
  - mghackerlady 8mo ago
    The disease is poverty most of the time, if not directly then indirectly. Solving it is wealth redistribution at a massive scale but unfortunately our masters need another yacht
- paulddraper 8mo ago
  Theft is a symptom of theft being permitted. Stores don’t lock up food.

watwut 8mo ago

Neither of these is right wing value. They are right wing talking points right uses when it suits them and completely ignores when it does not suit them.

red-iron-pine 8mo ago
to put a finer point on it, those points exist where they have vested interests in extracting value out of those fields. no large right wing doner wants a free market, they want their restrictions removed, and to have a monopoly to the fullest extent

mghackerlady 8mo ago

Markets being completely free got us in this mess, and while sound on paper has so many potential ways to go wrong it should be controlled by the working class either directly or indirectly through voting Theft is a symptom, not a disease. Eliminate the disease and theft effectively disappears Educational choice deserves to be respected so long as it isn't being used to propagate objectively false information

AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
> Markets being completely free got us in this mess, and while sound on paper has so many potential ways to go wrong it should be controlled by the working class either directly or indirectly through voting Is that what got us into this mess? (Which mess?) Take medical care, for instance. Is that a free market? Not really, no. I mean, there are clearly markets that can be too free. No, you can't put poison in food and call it "free market". You can't roll through the farmer's market with guns and take everybody's stuff and call it "free market". There is a level of regulation where markets work best, and they work worse with either too much or too little regulation. But something like the medical market... most people can't shop around for insurance; their employer works with only one insurer. Most people can't shop around freely for doctors; they have to go to someone within their plan. And so on. That's not even close to a free market. > Theft is a symptom, not a disease. Eliminate the disease and theft effectively disappears Great. Now tell us what you think the disease is, and how you think we should eliminate it. > Educational choice deserves to be respected so long as it isn't being used to propagate objectively false information And who is going to authoritatively determine what is objectively false? You just appointed that person dictator of the educational system. (See previous remarks about free markets.)
- superxpro12 8mo ago
  The educational system was working pretty well in terms of objectivity until the right wing started screaming about kids pissing in litter boxes and universities censoring right wing ideology. The reality is that right wing ideology is unpopular when exposed to objective discussion. Turns out most people dont agree those concepts. So now we have an administration who's actively working to censor universities to compel speech and censor ideas it doesnt like via lawsuits, executive orders, and funding elimination.
- mghackerlady 8mo ago
  The disease is poverty most of the time, if not directly then indirectly. Solving it is wealth redistribution at a massive scale but unfortunately our masters need another yacht
paulddraper 8mo ago
Theft is a symptom of theft being permitted. Stores don’t lock up food.