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KYC is generally a force for good because it prevents fraud. While it is not reasonable for Discord to collect your identity that is a fair requirement for a ba

KYC is generally a force for good because it prevents fraud. While it is not reasonable for Discord to collect your identity that is a fair requirement for a bank account because money laundering is a serious problem worth preventing. The reason the 'Epstein class' are able to get away with crimes is because in recent US elections the US voted to elect politicions that intentionally are not investigating those crimes and even pardoned some criminals convicted of them.

mc32 7mo ago
Don’t pardoned people by definition need to have been convicted of a crime whether real or in some select instances otherwise? Can you pardon someone not convicted of a (federal) crime?
- heavyset_go 7mo ago
  Yes, the last president pardoned himself and his family on his way out.
  - mc32 7mo ago
    I’m not sure if that has precedent. It’s unusual to grant a pardon before a case is brought to court. In any event, my point was all presidents who grant pardons grant them to people convicted of a crime; it’s not a recent development. But that was framed as being upsetting precedent.
- jandrese 7mo ago
  Preemptive pardons have been used in recent history. https://www.criminallawlibraryblog.com/amp/preemptive-pardons-constitutional-authority-and-real-world-implications/ https://www.criminallawlibraryblog.com/amp/preemptive-pardon...
- monocasa 7mo ago
  Not according to Ex parte Garland (1866). > 9. The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control. https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep071/usrep071333/usrep071333.pdf https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep... Basically you can't pardon acts that haven't happened yet, but you can pardon before any legal action has been taken on prior acts.
akimbostrawman 7mo ago
>KYC is generally a force for good because it prevents fraud Now replace KYC with CCTV surveillance because thats what it really is. Complete Monetary surveillance and control to fight a boogeyman scapegoat it doesn't even actually effect.

mc32 7mo ago

Don’t pardoned people by definition need to have been convicted of a crime whether real or in some select instances otherwise? Can you pardon someone not convicted of a (federal) crime?

heavyset_go 7mo ago
Yes, the last president pardoned himself and his family on his way out.
- mc32 7mo ago
  I’m not sure if that has precedent. It’s unusual to grant a pardon before a case is brought to court. In any event, my point was all presidents who grant pardons grant them to people convicted of a crime; it’s not a recent development. But that was framed as being upsetting precedent.
jandrese 7mo ago
Preemptive pardons have been used in recent history. https://www.criminallawlibraryblog.com/amp/preemptive-pardons-constitutional-authority-and-real-world-implications/ https://www.criminallawlibraryblog.com/amp/preemptive-pardon...
monocasa 7mo ago
Not according to Ex parte Garland (1866). > 9. The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control. https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep071/usrep071333/usrep071333.pdf https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep... Basically you can't pardon acts that haven't happened yet, but you can pardon before any legal action has been taken on prior acts.

akimbostrawman 7mo ago

>KYC is generally a force for good because it prevents fraud Now replace KYC with CCTV surveillance because thats what it really is. Complete Monetary surveillance and control to fight a boogeyman scapegoat it doesn't even actually effect.