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> Imagine trying to compile this on ARM 10 years ago Cortex A57 is 14 years old and is significantly faster than the 9 year old Cortex A55 these RISC-V cores a

> Imagine trying to compile this on ARM 10 years ago Cortex A57 is 14 years old and is significantly faster than the 9 year old Cortex A55 these RISC-V cores are being compared against. So yes it's many years behind. Many, many years.

LeFantome 7mo ago
SpacemiT K3 is on par with Rockchip RK3588. So, about 4 years behind ARM. Tenstorrent Atlantis (first Ascalon silicon) should ship in Q2/Q3 and be twice as fast. About as fast as Ryzen5. So, about 5 years behind AMD. But even the K3 has faster AI than Apple Silicon or Qualcomm X Elite. Current trend-lines suggest ARM64 and RISC-V performance parity before 2030.
- kllrnohj 7mo ago
  > SpacemiT K3 is on par with Rockchip RK3588. So, about 4 years behind ARM. That'd be ~7 years behind, not 4. Cortex A76 came out in late 2018. Also what benchmarks are you looking at? > Tenstorrent Atlantis (first Ascalon silicon) should ship in Q2/Q3 and be twice as fast. About as fast as Ryzen5. So, about 5 years behind AMD. Which Ryzen 5? The first Ryzen 5 came out in 2017, which was a lot more than 5 years ago. > But even the K3 has faster AI than Apple Silicon or Qualcomm X Elite. Which isn't RISC-V. Might as well brag about a RISC-V CPU with an RTX 5090 being faster at CUDA than a Nintendo Switch. That's a coprocessor that has nothing to do with the ISA or CPU core. > Current trend-lines suggest ARM64 and RISC-V performance parity before 2030. L. O. fucking. L. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
- HerbManic 7mo ago
  I love the optimisim, but I do thimk your time line is little quick. It will be more like 10 years than 4.
- ben-schaaf 7mo ago
  Not sure why you're taking the rk3588 as a milestone for ARM, when it's a low end chip using core designs that were old when it released. Cortex-A76 is from 2018, so if that's the yardstick then the K3 is 8 years behind. Even then at the time the A76 was released Apple was significantly ahead with their own ARM CPUs.

LeFantome 7mo ago

SpacemiT K3 is on par with Rockchip RK3588. So, about 4 years behind ARM. Tenstorrent Atlantis (first Ascalon silicon) should ship in Q2/Q3 and be twice as fast. About as fast as Ryzen5. So, about 5 years behind AMD. But even the K3 has faster AI than Apple Silicon or Qualcomm X Elite. Current trend-lines suggest ARM64 and RISC-V performance parity before 2030.

kllrnohj 7mo ago
> SpacemiT K3 is on par with Rockchip RK3588. So, about 4 years behind ARM. That'd be ~7 years behind, not 4. Cortex A76 came out in late 2018. Also what benchmarks are you looking at? > Tenstorrent Atlantis (first Ascalon silicon) should ship in Q2/Q3 and be twice as fast. About as fast as Ryzen5. So, about 5 years behind AMD. Which Ryzen 5? The first Ryzen 5 came out in 2017, which was a lot more than 5 years ago. > But even the K3 has faster AI than Apple Silicon or Qualcomm X Elite. Which isn't RISC-V. Might as well brag about a RISC-V CPU with an RTX 5090 being faster at CUDA than a Nintendo Switch. That's a coprocessor that has nothing to do with the ISA or CPU core. > Current trend-lines suggest ARM64 and RISC-V performance parity before 2030. L. O. fucking. L. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
HerbManic 7mo ago
I love the optimisim, but I do thimk your time line is little quick. It will be more like 10 years than 4.
ben-schaaf 7mo ago
Not sure why you're taking the rk3588 as a milestone for ARM, when it's a low end chip using core designs that were old when it released. Cortex-A76 is from 2018, so if that's the yardstick then the K3 is 8 years behind. Even then at the time the A76 was released Apple was significantly ahead with their own ARM CPUs.