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> Is there anything else you want to know? Why are you doing this? C++ has no future, only past.

nnq 14y ago
I just wish/hope it's true... that we ll finally get out of this dark age of byzantine languages that grow like cancer (just rembered the good ol "C is to C++ as Lung is to Lung Cancer" :) )... congrats for saying it out loud anyway!
zxcdw 14y ago
If only there were alternatives which give similar control.
- xradionut 14y ago
  There's not. We are stuck in a C/C++ world for the time being. I had hopes for something like Oberon or D a couple of decades ago, but no one wants to go tilting at the windmills.
  - pcwalton 14y ago
    Shameless plug, but Rust is intended to be that. There's also Clay, etc.
- slowpoke 14y ago
  I do believe most new projects today would be better off with a combination of a high level language for the logic, like Python or Perl, and a low level language like C or maybe Go for the plumbing, with clean interfaces between them. There really is no need for a behemoth like C++, with two dozen ways to do any single thing, half of them conflicting with each other and the other half subject to vigorous religious debates.
  - zxcdw 14y ago
    I think the key for effective use of C++ is to know what to do and what to use to do it. It's certain that relying on multiple inheritance for example is probably a bad idea. After working with Ruby for some time, I realized that many co-developers don't have a slightest of a clue what they're doing with the language yet they do just about right with it - with C++ similar (careless) mindset and skill level would very soon end up in a terminated project. In the end it's the domain which matters more than the languages - as I implied in my earlier comment, I outright require as much control over the hardware as possible - there are no alternatives for me. Rust comes close(and it's nice, I like it thus far!), but let's see in a few years.
10098 14y ago
Just curious, what is the alternative to C++ that has a "future"?

nnq 14y ago

I just wish/hope it's true... that we ll finally get out of this dark age of byzantine languages that grow like cancer (just rembered the good ol "C is to C++ as Lung is to Lung Cancer" :) )... congrats for saying it out loud anyway!

zxcdw 14y ago

If only there were alternatives which give similar control.

xradionut 14y ago
There's not. We are stuck in a C/C++ world for the time being. I had hopes for something like Oberon or D a couple of decades ago, but no one wants to go tilting at the windmills.
- pcwalton 14y ago
  Shameless plug, but Rust is intended to be that. There's also Clay, etc.
slowpoke 14y ago
I do believe most new projects today would be better off with a combination of a high level language for the logic, like Python or Perl, and a low level language like C or maybe Go for the plumbing, with clean interfaces between them. There really is no need for a behemoth like C++, with two dozen ways to do any single thing, half of them conflicting with each other and the other half subject to vigorous religious debates.
- zxcdw 14y ago
  I think the key for effective use of C++ is to know what to do and what to use to do it. It's certain that relying on multiple inheritance for example is probably a bad idea. After working with Ruby for some time, I realized that many co-developers don't have a slightest of a clue what they're doing with the language yet they do just about right with it - with C++ similar (careless) mindset and skill level would very soon end up in a terminated project. In the end it's the domain which matters more than the languages - as I implied in my earlier comment, I outright require as much control over the hardware as possible - there are no alternatives for me. Rust comes close(and it's nice, I like it thus far!), but let's see in a few years.

10098 14y ago

Just curious, what is the alternative to C++ that has a "future"?