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HyperCard discovery: Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive (2022)

• latchkey 7mo ago
  wow. .sea suffix, haven't thought about that in a long time.
  • techknight 7mo ago
    Once in a while I remember .arj
    • caidan 7mo ago
      And .ain which was even better but now seems to be half lost to time (no Wikipedia, just a few links repeating the same fragments of info like http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/AIN http://justsolve.archiveteam.org/wiki/AIN)
  • steve1977 7mo ago
    Good old StuffIt. Or well, let's just say old StuffIt.
• scroot 7mo ago
  Imagine if computing had continued down the path laid by systems like HyperCard
  • TuringTest 7mo ago
    We're finally getting there. The model of web notebooks look a lot like Hypercard stacks in terms of usability; there's only missing someone packing them in and easy-to-use distribution and sharing environment that does not depend on users installing their own web server. And if that package includes some reasonable local LLM model, creating simple programs by end users could be even easier than it ever was with Hypercard.
    • trvv 7mo ago
      PWAs could have been so good. redbean/llamafile might be the closest, though.
    • __patchbit__ 7mo ago
      The enduse developer experience sees the 17e and Neo paired with spoken instruction AI prompts going to the iPhone that effects the Hypercard network aware environment do the thing on the laptop.
    • celsius1414 7mo ago
      I suspect that will get you trapped in a Myst linking book if you’re not careful! ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst
    • scroot 7mo ago
      I didn't mean "like hypercard" so literally in this manner. What I meant was, a computing environment that seems to blend seamlessly into the wider operating system, and that is able to sufficiently blur the line between end users and "programmers" (here called "authors"). Critical to this capability was the ability to "pop the hood" easily and mess with what was going on underneath. All of today's computing is fundamentally based on a strong division between programmers and users. That division has only grown more stark with time. The dominance of Unix is partly to blame, in my view.
  • aldousd666 7mo ago
    Hypercard is really kind of like the first implementation of HTML5. With applescript instead of javascript.
    • jandrese 7mo ago
      I mused about the idea of a version of Hypercard where you could load cards from network resources, or even just stacks. Ultimately though it would have been an even bigger security nightmare than the original Javascript. Hypercard was developed long before security was even a consideration on consumer hardware. The only thing it had was 5 different access levels, from a view only mode to full developer support. It's as much of a fantasy as the one where Apple released a version of Hypercard for Windows 3.1 and blew Qbasic out of the water. It's a real shame Apple just chucked one of the most interesting beginner programming environments in the trash just as so many new people were getting interested in programming.
      • DonHopkins 7mo ago
        HyperLook was inspired by HyperCard and implemented for the NeWS window system in PostScript, and supported networking. I used it to implement SimCity for Unix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS SimCity, Cellular Automata, and Happy Tool for HyperLook (nee HyperNeWS (nee GoodNeWS)) HyperLook was like HyperCard for NeWS, with PostScript graphics and scripting plus networking. Here are three unique and wacky examples that plug together to show what HyperNeWS was all about, and where we could go in the future! https://donhopkins.medium.com/hyperlook-nee-hypernews-nee-goodnews-99f411e58ce4 https://donhopkins.medium.com/hyperlook-nee-hypernews-nee-go... Alan Kay on “Should web browsers have stuck to being document viewers?” and a discussion of Smalltalk, HyperCard, NeWS, and HyperLook: https://donhopkins.medium.com/alan-kay-on-should-web-browsers-have-stuck-to-being-document-viewers-and-a-discussion-of-news-5cb92c7b3445 https://donhopkins.medium.com/alan-kay-on-should-web-browser...
        • scroot 7mo ago
          I knew I could get Don Hopkins to show up!
• JKCalhoun 7mo ago
  Way back: https://web.archive.org/web/20230307111053/https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/neuromancer-count-zero-mona-lisa-overdrive https://web.archive.org/web/20230307111053/https://macintosh...
• neals 7mo ago
  Would anybody be so kind to enlighten me with some context?
  • lobf 7mo ago
    What exactly are you unclear on? Edit: not sure why I was downvoted, I’m literally attempting to provide whatever information you need about this, just not sure what aspect is confusing.
    • cmacleod4 7mo ago
      Your question was probably misinterpreted as sarcasm. :-(
  • observationist 7mo ago
    Proto-websites - technically called hypermedia, it was basically a locally stored website, and pioneers were trying things out like putting books and information and functionality in them. In this case, it's the Wintermute trilogy by William Gibson in Hypercard format, so this is also a retro computing discovery.
  • newsclues 7mo ago
    "The Expanded Books Project was a project by The Voyager Company during 1991, that investigated how a book could be presented on a computer screen in a way that would be both familiar and useful to regular book readers. The project focused on perfecting font choice, font size, line spacing, margin notes, book marks, and other publishing details to work in digital format."
• straws 7mo ago
  The Voyager Company is truly worthy of study if you are at all interested in a vision for hypermedia before the internet. - Collected media https://the-next.eliterature.org/collections/2 https://the-next.eliterature.org/collections/2 - A catalog introducing this software to a print audience https://archive.org/details/voyager-360-catalog/mode/2upa https://archive.org/details/voyager-360-catalog/mode/2upa
  • rasz 7mo ago
    The Digital Antiquarian covered Voyager Company on his excellent blog: https://www.filfre.net/2021/06/bob-stein-and-voyager/ https://www.filfre.net/2021/06/bob-stein-and-voyager/ https://www.filfre.net/2021/06/the-best-of-voyager-part-1/ https://www.filfre.net/2021/06/the-best-of-voyager-part-1/
  • anthk 7mo ago
    Every multimedia CD for Windows in mid-late 90's was like that. Encarta was the pinnacle for obvious reasons among these Macromedia Director games/tools with courses, 360 views from Paris before even Google existed and OFC Cryo Omni 3D games, soon playable under Scummvm.
    • leoc 7mo ago
      Has anyone tried asking Microsoft if they’re willing to put Encarta (or at least Collier’s Encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier's_Encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collier's_Encyclopedia which it was developed from) under a Creative Commons license? They don’t seem to be doing much else with it, I assume they’ve probably written it off financially at this point, and they’d get some goodwill out of it.
      • anthk 7mo ago
        Scummvm (daily build) can run tons of Macromedia Director based games and software.
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• leoc 7mo ago
  Another 1990s go at a commercially-released electronic book was Scott Meyer's Effective C++ CD-ROM https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/520985 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/520985 https://www.aristeia.com/books.html https://www.aristeia.com/books.html from 1998.
• 011101101 7mo ago
  7.5.x will run IC ROM after Gibson.dmg mounts to 68K MAC II emulation.
• DonHopkins 7mo ago
  I'd love it if someone could dig up a copy of Digital Lantern's HyperCard based Digital Restaurant Guide (DRG) of San Francisco. https://www.wired.com/1993/03/digital-guide-done-right/ https://www.wired.com/1993/03/digital-guide-done-right/ >The Digital Restaurant Guide (DRG) from Digital Lantern is an elaborately layered HyperCard stack that has nearly 3,000 restaurant reviews of San Francisco eateries. The maps are geo-coded – when you type in two street names, the stack goes right to the map of their intersection. Restaurants are denoted on the map as little dots. […] http://digitallantern.net/DRG.html http://digitallantern.net/DRG.html >Brief History of Digital Lantern >In 1993 Mark Richard Beaulieu created the Digital Cities Restaurant Guide, one of the first computer restaurant guides as written of in Wired Magazine. The software featured geocoded and deep content for the 3,200 San Francisco restaurants[8] and eventually all 14,000 restaurants in the SF Bay Area. The interface was designed by Nathan Shedroff. Designed for Powerbooks, the software was sold by Apple Computer and affiliate stores, the content updated every season. The product was widely reviewed in the Bay Area; even Gary Wolf wrote of it in SF Weekly. Terry Winograd asked him to present the salient concepts of his innovative interfaces, predictions for emerging consumer deep personal content at an HCI seminar at Stanford University. For a synopsis of the lecture click here. Some of the Digital Lantern concepts and user interface are seen on Yelp.com. >In 1996 Mark transferred Digital Cities assets to Vivid Travel Network and worked as their director of product development helping to develop a 25 language web-based international travel guide. Branded as Digital Cities the name was sold to AOL. When VTN dissolved, Beaulieu created the United States Restaurant Guide. https://nathan.com/digital-restaurant-guide-application-design/ https://nathan.com/digital-restaurant-guide-application-desi... >This guide to over 2000 restaurants in San Francisco and surroundings was developed especially for PowerBooks. Each restaurant is located by its geographic coordinates on the many maps. The product allows users to search for restaurants in a variety of different ways, including geographically, alphabetically, by food type, by rating, and from a list of “Bests.” Users are able to start and edit their own “Bests” lists and make changes to the data for their personal uses. The information includes ratings for overall performance, coffee quality, wine list, ambience, and service. Many menus are included, as well as prices, descriptions, hours, and parking information.
• valuegram 7mo ago
  Hey! My first introduction to software engineering was via HyperCard in an advanced elementary school math class in the Texas public school system in the early 90s. I have made a nearly 30 year career out of the passion my teacher and a volunteer parent sparked in that class.
  • duskwuff 7mo ago
    Mine as well (well, not in Texas). I have fond memories of building a bunch of simple adventure games with my classmates - it was incredibly easy to learn how to use the authoring tools.
• sailfast 7mo ago
  I loved HyperCard. Using it you really felt like you were building something of consequence - it was pretty magical to go from simple word processing to this in one model leap of a school computer.
• anthk 7mo ago
  That will run well under minivmac. Yes, for 9front too.
• wolvoleo 7mo ago
  I thought they were interesting books but only the first one really captivated me. With the descriptions of Chiba and Straylight. The sprawl itself didn't really feel real somehow and the stories were more bland and weird. The only character I really liked was Molly. What really made cyberpunk shine for me was blade runner and the game. I have only read the books recently though. I think a lot of shine has been taken away by parts of it not Science Fiction anymore. The same way I didn't like Star Trek TOS as a kid and I loved TNG (and I really hate the modern ones by the way)
• kalleboo 7mo ago
  You can run this in an emulator directly in your browser at https://infinitemac.org/1994/System%207.5 https://infinitemac.org/1994/System%207.5 There's even a Macintosh Garden popup tab at the bottom of the page to search and load the software directly into the emulator
• FatherOfCurses 7mo ago
  Man, all I ever did with Hypercard was make custom inserts for my cassette tape cases.