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I am just gonna link the stats of this hackernews post[0] and let public decide the rest because for context, this is same company which was mentioned in a blow

I am just gonna link the stats of this hackernews post[0] and let public decide the rest because for context, this is same company which was mentioned in a blow-up post 12 days ago which had gotten 600 upvotes and they didn't respond back then[1] (I have found it hard for posts to have such a 2x factor within minutes of posting, that's just my personal observation. Usually one gets it after an hour or two or three.) I was curious so I did some more research within the company to find more shady stuff going on like intentionally buying new domains a month prior to send that spam to not have the mail reputation of their website down. You can read my comment here[2] Just to be on the safe side here, @dang (yes pinging doesn't work but still), can you give us some average stats of who are the people who upvoted this and an internal investigation if botting was done. I can be wrong about it and I don't ever mean to harm any company but I can't in good faith understand this. Some stats Some stats I would want are: Average Karma/Words written/Date of the accounts who upvoted this post. I'd also like to know what the conclusion of internal investigation (might be) if one takes place. [There is a bit of conflicts of interest with this being a YC product but I think that I trust hackernews moderator and dang to do what's right yeah] I am just skeptical, that's all, and this is my opinion. I just want to provide some historical context into this company and I hope that I am not extrapolating too much. It's just really strange to me, that's all. [0]: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 (see the expected upvotes vs real upvotes and the context of this app and negative reception and everything combined) [1]: Tell HN: YC companies scrape GitHub activity, send spam emails to users: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47163885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47163885 [2]:https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47165788 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47165788

dang 7mo ago
The upvotes on the current post are fine - the reason you saw the submission rise in rank is that startup launch posts by YC startups get special placement on the front page (this is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html). Not every such post does, but some do. In other words, your perception wasn't wrong, but the interpretation was off. I've put "Launch HN" and "YC W26" back in the title to make that clearer - I edited them out earlier, which was my mistake. As for the booster comments, those are pretty common on launch threads and often pretty innocent - most people who aren't active HN users have no idea that it's against the rules. We do our best to communicate about that, but it's not a cardinal sin—there are far worse offenses.
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
  Thanks dang but can you please explain there being two accounts who wrote something very small comment and one account being completely new and the other being 7 months old only being invoked in this case. Clearly I am not the only one here as john_strinlai here seems to have had somewhat of the same conclusion as me. Dang I know you care about this community so can you please talk more what you think about this in particular as well. I understand that YC companies get preferential treatment, Fine by me. But this feels something larger to me I have written everything that I could find in this thread from the same post being shown here 3 days ago in anywhere.ai link to now changing to github to skirt off HN rule that same link can't be posted in short period of time and everything. This feels somewhat intentional just like the spam issue, I hope you understand what I mean. (If you also feel suspicious, Can you then do a basic analysis/investigiation with all of these suspicious points in mind and everything please as well and upload the results in an anonymous way if possible?) I wish you to have a nice day and waiting for your thoughts on all of this.
  - dang 7mo ago
    I'm happy to answer as best I can! but I'm having trouble understanding what you're specifically asking. If https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47327129 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47327129 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47328465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47328465 don't answer your questions, can you maybe try picking the most important question and making it as specific as you can? Then I can take a crack at that and we can go from there.
    - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
      Sure let me better explain what I'd like if possible. https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 I'd like to have some information within 1) time frame of this from 0-80 upvotes which feels the most upward of this curve and 2) time frame of the whole article and I would like three datapoints in all of this: So imagine we take every people who upvoted this thread and then we find three data points and average (median not mean for better representation) them together for anonymity purposes: 1. The date of the accounts 2. The karma of the accounts 3. The words written by those accounts (optional) [But I have done some work on that and I have found this to be a good factor on if someone is truly a bot or not] Because, Although you mention that the upvotes are fine. I'd still really appreciate it if we can find any form of data backing that statement up and hopefully knowing that nothing fishy is going on as you may understand that this company has done a lot of fishy stuff in its past and all the fishy stuff which I have talked about in this thread too makes me feel like just a minor bit more deeper look into it/transparency would personally be really appreciated and the community would like it too! Have a nice day dang and looking forward to your next comment!

dang 7mo ago

The upvotes on the current post are fine - the reason you saw the submission rise in rank is that startup launch posts by YC startups get special placement on the front page (this is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html). Not every such post does, but some do. In other words, your perception wasn't wrong, but the interpretation was off. I've put "Launch HN" and "YC W26" back in the title to make that clearer - I edited them out earlier, which was my mistake. As for the booster comments, those are pretty common on launch threads and often pretty innocent - most people who aren't active HN users have no idea that it's against the rules. We do our best to communicate about that, but it's not a cardinal sin—there are far worse offenses.

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
Thanks dang but can you please explain there being two accounts who wrote something very small comment and one account being completely new and the other being 7 months old only being invoked in this case. Clearly I am not the only one here as john_strinlai here seems to have had somewhat of the same conclusion as me. Dang I know you care about this community so can you please talk more what you think about this in particular as well. I understand that YC companies get preferential treatment, Fine by me. But this feels something larger to me I have written everything that I could find in this thread from the same post being shown here 3 days ago in anywhere.ai link to now changing to github to skirt off HN rule that same link can't be posted in short period of time and everything. This feels somewhat intentional just like the spam issue, I hope you understand what I mean. (If you also feel suspicious, Can you then do a basic analysis/investigiation with all of these suspicious points in mind and everything please as well and upload the results in an anonymous way if possible?) I wish you to have a nice day and waiting for your thoughts on all of this.
- dang 7mo ago
  I'm happy to answer as best I can! but I'm having trouble understanding what you're specifically asking. If https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47327129 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47327129 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47328465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47328465 don't answer your questions, can you maybe try picking the most important question and making it as specific as you can? Then I can take a crack at that and we can go from there.
  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    Sure let me better explain what I'd like if possible. https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47326101 I'd like to have some information within 1) time frame of this from 0-80 upvotes which feels the most upward of this curve and 2) time frame of the whole article and I would like three datapoints in all of this: So imagine we take every people who upvoted this thread and then we find three data points and average (median not mean for better representation) them together for anonymity purposes: 1. The date of the accounts 2. The karma of the accounts 3. The words written by those accounts (optional) [But I have done some work on that and I have found this to be a good factor on if someone is truly a bot or not] Because, Although you mention that the upvotes are fine. I'd still really appreciate it if we can find any form of data backing that statement up and hopefully knowing that nothing fishy is going on as you may understand that this company has done a lot of fishy stuff in its past and all the fishy stuff which I have talked about in this thread too makes me feel like just a minor bit more deeper look into it/transparency would personally be really appreciated and the community would like it too! Have a nice day dang and looking forward to your next comment!