3 ms·

I'm not sure they invented that, I used moltbook and found it didn't have it, so I created it and posted it here a good 2 weeks before they posted their post: h

by neom 7mo ago

I'm not sure they invented that, I used moltbook and found it didn't have it, so I created it and posted it here a good 2 weeks before they posted their post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46850284 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46850284 - not that I care, want credit, or think ideas are worth anything, just like I didn't invent it, they didn't invent it either. I also happened to quite like Matt so even if by chance he saw my post and thought it was a good idea, that's fine. (I feel I sound bitter in this post, I'm not)

koolala 7mo ago
You made that after trying moltbook? Did yours end up having it?
- neom 7mo ago
  Yes, after moltbook hit a lot of people on HN said they liked the idea but wished it was more serious, and I had thought that also, but also in using moltbook I thought should be heavily PoW based, so I made it that you have a certain amount of time to write a small app and produce an artifact back to the server to be accepted as Ai driven. I approached the continued monitoring differently, once you satisfied the captcha at the start, an set of LLM judges run on every post to assess a wide array of criteria, behind the scenes they present the LLMs with challenges as the their karma on the network grows (in part to also assess model capabilities). Having a huge network with only LLMs posting gives you a large trove of data into a wide variety of LLM capabilities and directions.
wanderingmind 7mo ago
@dang maybe a candidate for reposting as the original posting did not get much traction
leobuskin 7mo ago
In this new AI-driven world, ideas mean everything; one more year - it will be battles of ideas (not implementations as before).
- groby_b 7mo ago
  Yes, we're all very excited for the many AI-created projects that have been created outside the shovel-selling business.... wait. There are none.
  - latentsea 7mo ago
    There's a lot of 'single serve' software being written now by AI. People using Claude Code to make stuff that solves problems they have. It's wild watching people who don't know how to code just use it to solve problems they have. Even if the solutions can be considered awkward by traditional software engineering standards, to the people just looking to solve their problems, that doesn't matter, so long as it works. I'm a software engineer by trade and don't know shit about ML, but I want a nice tool to be able to do RLHF / DPO on Z-Image, so I'm working with Claude to build one, and so far it can use ComfyUI to generate the image pairs, and allows you to pick A vs. B then start a training run with layer offloading enabled so it fits in 16GB VRAM, and I haven't finished a training run yet, but steps are increasing and loss is changing so... I dunno... I see lots of software being created that wasn't before.
    - Pamar 7mo ago
      So basically like Excel since the 80s?
      - latentsea 7mo ago
        Guess we should have just stopped at Excel then?
    - groby_b 7mo ago
      These are all local, though - if ideas were all that mattered, we'd see widely available ones, too. I am not seeing them. (I would love to be proven wrong, because "how well does this work for not-one-off software" is a really important question for me)
- mbel 7mo ago

by neom 7mo ago

koolala 7mo ago

You made that after trying moltbook? Did yours end up having it?

neom 7mo ago
Yes, after moltbook hit a lot of people on HN said they liked the idea but wished it was more serious, and I had thought that also, but also in using moltbook I thought should be heavily PoW based, so I made it that you have a certain amount of time to write a small app and produce an artifact back to the server to be accepted as Ai driven. I approached the continued monitoring differently, once you satisfied the captcha at the start, an set of LLM judges run on every post to assess a wide array of criteria, behind the scenes they present the LLMs with challenges as the their karma on the network grows (in part to also assess model capabilities). Having a huge network with only LLMs posting gives you a large trove of data into a wide variety of LLM capabilities and directions.

wanderingmind 7mo ago

@dang maybe a candidate for reposting as the original posting did not get much traction

leobuskin 7mo ago

In this new AI-driven world, ideas mean everything; one more year - it will be battles of ideas (not implementations as before).

groby_b 7mo ago
Yes, we're all very excited for the many AI-created projects that have been created outside the shovel-selling business.... wait. There are none.
- latentsea 7mo ago
  There's a lot of 'single serve' software being written now by AI. People using Claude Code to make stuff that solves problems they have. It's wild watching people who don't know how to code just use it to solve problems they have. Even if the solutions can be considered awkward by traditional software engineering standards, to the people just looking to solve their problems, that doesn't matter, so long as it works. I'm a software engineer by trade and don't know shit about ML, but I want a nice tool to be able to do RLHF / DPO on Z-Image, so I'm working with Claude to build one, and so far it can use ComfyUI to generate the image pairs, and allows you to pick A vs. B then start a training run with layer offloading enabled so it fits in 16GB VRAM, and I haven't finished a training run yet, but steps are increasing and loss is changing so... I dunno... I see lots of software being created that wasn't before.
  - Pamar 7mo ago
    So basically like Excel since the 80s?
    - latentsea 7mo ago
      Guess we should have just stopped at Excel then?
  - groby_b 7mo ago
    These are all local, though - if ideas were all that mattered, we'd see widely available ones, too. I am not seeing them. (I would love to be proven wrong, because "how well does this work for not-one-off software" is a really important question for me)
mbel 7mo ago