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CO2 levels are detectably weakening human bone and making you more anxious at current levels: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11869-026-01918-5 https

CO2 levels are detectably weakening human bone and making you more anxious at current levels: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11869-026-01918-5 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11869-026-01918-5 (look at the CO2 level over time image for a sense of perspective) CO2 levels are increasing your risk of diabetes: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412014002335 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041201...? They are not slowly increasing, they are hockey sticking. The worst case is coming to pass. People are addicted to optimism here. It is unfounded - there is one action and it is to reduce CO2 emissions drastically at the expense of economic growth or we will destroy the world as we know it. It cannot be overstated how dire the situation is.

graemep 7mo ago
The first abstract says: "If these trends continue, blood bicarbonate values could be at the limit of the accepted healthy range in half a century, and Ca and P will be at the limit of their healthy ranges by the end of this century. " Hardly hockey sticking. CO2 levels are likely to be lower by the end of the century. The second abstract concludes: "This study does not support the hypothesis that CO2 emissions, a leading driver of climate change, may be linked to increasing trends in obesity and diabetes, though there was an indication of possible link between CO2 and obesity."
- throwaway5752 7mo ago
  "CO2 levels are likely to be lower by the end of the century" This is not well supported by any evidence that I'm aware of. These are scientific papers, they couch things in conservative wording. The fact that these papers exist ought to alarm you, and CO2 levels. Atmosphere CO2 concentration is accelerating, and enter areas of uncontrolled feedback loops
  - graemep 7mo ago
    There is a large scale switch to non-fossil fuel energy sources. We are probably close to peak oil anyway so there is no choice with oil. A lot of countries have abandoned coal, and while some continue to build coal power there is no reason to think the current trend will continue as alternatives get better. I am not aware of any evidence that current trends will continue for another 74 years.. Ten years, certainly, but not for three quarters of a century.
Someone 7mo ago
> CO2 levels are increasing your risk of diabetes: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041201 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041201...? Are you sure? FTA: “Higher CO2 emission was not associated with larger changes in diabetes prevalence.”
dgllghr 7mo ago
I agree with you. People are far too optimistic. On a practical level, though, how much of these increasing issues can be temporarily ameliorated by better ventilated houses, schools, offices, etc.? In other words, does reducing the average exposure of CO2 help or is it really about the outdoor level? I could see the average mattering, but I could also see how spending time in an environment that is <400ppm CO2 (basically never happens now) could cause our bodies to rapidly expel CO2 and "reset" our internal levels.
- throwaway5752 7mo ago
  My dire warning is in fact secondary to the climate changes, which are much worse and are already causing regional famines and human migration in the Levant and East African. People do not appreciate how fragile modern life that we've become accustomed to can be. A few famines, a few supply chain breakdowns, the wrong conflict escalations - together at the wrong time could effectively end homo sapiens as an advanced intelligent species. Our big break was easily accessibly surface hydrocarbons, which we have mostly burned through. That enabled advanced materials science, electrical engineering, metallurgy that all build upon each other. As the species has gotten larger, it allowed greater specialization. If we have a massive drawdown in population as the result of a self-inflicted climate crisis, there is a nontrivial possibility we we never recover to current levels of advancement.
sheikhnbake 7mo ago
Silver lining here: perhaps these health risks will help speed along the rich pedos in charge to shuffle off their mortal coils

graemep 7mo ago

The first abstract says: "If these trends continue, blood bicarbonate values could be at the limit of the accepted healthy range in half a century, and Ca and P will be at the limit of their healthy ranges by the end of this century. " Hardly hockey sticking. CO2 levels are likely to be lower by the end of the century. The second abstract concludes: "This study does not support the hypothesis that CO2 emissions, a leading driver of climate change, may be linked to increasing trends in obesity and diabetes, though there was an indication of possible link between CO2 and obesity."

throwaway5752 7mo ago
"CO2 levels are likely to be lower by the end of the century" This is not well supported by any evidence that I'm aware of. These are scientific papers, they couch things in conservative wording. The fact that these papers exist ought to alarm you, and CO2 levels. Atmosphere CO2 concentration is accelerating, and enter areas of uncontrolled feedback loops
- graemep 7mo ago
  There is a large scale switch to non-fossil fuel energy sources. We are probably close to peak oil anyway so there is no choice with oil. A lot of countries have abandoned coal, and while some continue to build coal power there is no reason to think the current trend will continue as alternatives get better. I am not aware of any evidence that current trends will continue for another 74 years.. Ten years, certainly, but not for three quarters of a century.

Someone 7mo ago

> CO2 levels are increasing your risk of diabetes: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041201 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041201...? Are you sure? FTA: “Higher CO2 emission was not associated with larger changes in diabetes prevalence.”

dgllghr 7mo ago

I agree with you. People are far too optimistic. On a practical level, though, how much of these increasing issues can be temporarily ameliorated by better ventilated houses, schools, offices, etc.? In other words, does reducing the average exposure of CO2 help or is it really about the outdoor level? I could see the average mattering, but I could also see how spending time in an environment that is <400ppm CO2 (basically never happens now) could cause our bodies to rapidly expel CO2 and "reset" our internal levels.

throwaway5752 7mo ago
My dire warning is in fact secondary to the climate changes, which are much worse and are already causing regional famines and human migration in the Levant and East African. People do not appreciate how fragile modern life that we've become accustomed to can be. A few famines, a few supply chain breakdowns, the wrong conflict escalations - together at the wrong time could effectively end homo sapiens as an advanced intelligent species. Our big break was easily accessibly surface hydrocarbons, which we have mostly burned through. That enabled advanced materials science, electrical engineering, metallurgy that all build upon each other. As the species has gotten larger, it allowed greater specialization. If we have a massive drawdown in population as the result of a self-inflicted climate crisis, there is a nontrivial possibility we we never recover to current levels of advancement.

sheikhnbake 7mo ago

Silver lining here: perhaps these health risks will help speed along the rich pedos in charge to shuffle off their mortal coils