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Hugely unpopular opinion on HN, but I'd rather use code that is flawed while written by a human, versus code that has been generated by a LLM, even if it fixes

by lpcvoid 7mo ago

Hugely unpopular opinion on HN, but I'd rather use code that is flawed while written by a human, versus code that has been generated by a LLM, even if it fixes bugs. I'd gladly take a bug report, sure, but then I'd fix the issues myself. I'd never allow LLM code to be merged.

CoastalCoder 7mo ago
Any thoughts on why you have that preference?
- lpcvoid 7mo ago
  Because human errors are, well, human. And producing code that contains those errors is a human endeavor. It bases on years, decades of learning. Mistakes were made, experience was gained, skills were improved. Reasoning by humans is relatable. Generating slop using LLMs takes seconds, has no human element, no work goes into it. Mistakes made by an LLM are excused without sincerity, without real learning, without consequence. I hate everything about that.
  - hijnksforall956 7mo ago
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    - CoastalCoder 7mo ago
      Friendly suggestion: your post contains a mix of interesting points and ad hominim attacks. People will be more likely to engage with your main assertion if you leave out the insults.
      - hijnksforall956 7mo ago
        Is that like when "respected poster" jascuqesm implied I'm an asshole?
        CoastalCoder 7mo ago
        I'm not trying to police the whole website. I noticed your account was new, so I thought you might appreciate a likely explanation for why your post was being downvoted.
    - foresterre 7mo ago
      That's a rather unkind comment. For the parent there's immaterial value knowing that is written by a human. From what I read in your comment, you see code more as a means to an end. I think I understand where the parent is coming from. Writing code myself, and accomplishing what I set out to build sometimes feels like a form of art, and knowing that I build it, gives me a sense of accomplishment. And gives me energy. Writing code solely as a means to an end, or letting it be generated by some model, doesn't give that same energy. This thinking has nothing to do with not caring about being a good teammate or the business. I've no idea why you put that on the same pile.
      - hijnksforall956 7mo ago
        Some people like to do wood working with old tools, or build their house themselves. Wonderful. We are not taking about that. Code is a means to an end.
  - pmarreck 7mo ago
    This is nonsense. There's plenty of work that goes into it. In fact, if no human work goes into it, then it is unlikely to pass human muster/judgment. It is just a tool for accelerated work, like literally every technological progress before it, but hey, you can go continue banging away at your loom making bespoke textiles, no one's gonna stop you.
Meneth 7mo ago
I agree.
TiredOfLife 7mo ago
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- mekael 7mo ago
  A desire to engage with humans instead of matrix multiplication isn’t, and is incapable of being, racist. The underlying data that said matrices compute upon, can be racist though. I will admit that I may be missing some context though.

by lpcvoid 7mo ago

CoastalCoder 7mo ago

Any thoughts on why you have that preference?

lpcvoid 7mo ago
Because human errors are, well, human. And producing code that contains those errors is a human endeavor. It bases on years, decades of learning. Mistakes were made, experience was gained, skills were improved. Reasoning by humans is relatable. Generating slop using LLMs takes seconds, has no human element, no work goes into it. Mistakes made by an LLM are excused without sincerity, without real learning, without consequence. I hate everything about that.
- hijnksforall956 7mo ago
  [flagged]
  - CoastalCoder 7mo ago
    Friendly suggestion: your post contains a mix of interesting points and ad hominim attacks. People will be more likely to engage with your main assertion if you leave out the insults.
    - hijnksforall956 7mo ago
      Is that like when "respected poster" jascuqesm implied I'm an asshole?
      - CoastalCoder 7mo ago
        I'm not trying to police the whole website. I noticed your account was new, so I thought you might appreciate a likely explanation for why your post was being downvoted.
  - foresterre 7mo ago
    That's a rather unkind comment. For the parent there's immaterial value knowing that is written by a human. From what I read in your comment, you see code more as a means to an end. I think I understand where the parent is coming from. Writing code myself, and accomplishing what I set out to build sometimes feels like a form of art, and knowing that I build it, gives me a sense of accomplishment. And gives me energy. Writing code solely as a means to an end, or letting it be generated by some model, doesn't give that same energy. This thinking has nothing to do with not caring about being a good teammate or the business. I've no idea why you put that on the same pile.
    - hijnksforall956 7mo ago
      Some people like to do wood working with old tools, or build their house themselves. Wonderful. We are not taking about that. Code is a means to an end.
- pmarreck 7mo ago
  This is nonsense. There's plenty of work that goes into it. In fact, if no human work goes into it, then it is unlikely to pass human muster/judgment. It is just a tool for accelerated work, like literally every technological progress before it, but hey, you can go continue banging away at your loom making bespoke textiles, no one's gonna stop you.

Meneth 7mo ago

I agree.

TiredOfLife 7mo ago

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mekael 7mo ago
A desire to engage with humans instead of matrix multiplication isn’t, and is incapable of being, racist. The underlying data that said matrices compute upon, can be racist though. I will admit that I may be missing some context though.