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> Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, Treadwell added. Lol. Lmao. You have got to be jok

> Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, Treadwell added. Lol. Lmao. You have got to be joking. Seniors leaving in droves is how that plays out.

Rohunyyy 7mo ago
Nope. NO ONE is quitting in the current market because they got asked to review extra PRs.
- kakacik 7mo ago
  Top people definitely do if they feel like it, why the heck shouldn't they. There is no shortage of work for those. But its fine if company, via its actions, claims it doesn't want to even retain its top talent. Just market forces and all that.
- rsynnott 7mo ago
  If you’re a senior at Amazon and your whole job becomes reviewing slop, well, you can likely get another job which does not revolve around reviewing slop. The current market is not great, but it’s disproportionately painful for juniors.
onei 7mo ago
I read that line and thought "so, the solution is code review?". What has to happen to your processes that code review is not only missing, but unironically claimed to be the solution? I know there are some companies that never did code review, but this is Amazon. They should know better.
- rendaw 7mo ago
  It's _more_ code review. They already had senior code review.
wrxd 7mo ago
This is going to end either with seniors rubber-stamping absolutely everything without even reading or with seniors blocking most of the slop for no overall productivity gain
- Ekaros 7mo ago
  Or if review is actually done I think there will be productivity loss. Juniors with help of AI can generate more code than seniors have time to review in full working day. So they won't have time left for any other work...
- jcgrillo 7mo ago
  It will not be the second thing. If you hold up "velocity" you're the problem and that problem will get fixed.
- QuiEgo 7mo ago
  No, it’s Amazon. If a senior blocks the slop they will be told they are not disagreeing and committing enough. If bugs get through they will be told they didn’t dive deep enough. It’s classic Amazon blame game. Someone gets left holding the bag for impossible asks (hint: it’s never the person doing the ask), and then gets piped and fired.

Rohunyyy 7mo ago

Nope. NO ONE is quitting in the current market because they got asked to review extra PRs.

kakacik 7mo ago
Top people definitely do if they feel like it, why the heck shouldn't they. There is no shortage of work for those. But its fine if company, via its actions, claims it doesn't want to even retain its top talent. Just market forces and all that.
rsynnott 7mo ago
If you’re a senior at Amazon and your whole job becomes reviewing slop, well, you can likely get another job which does not revolve around reviewing slop. The current market is not great, but it’s disproportionately painful for juniors.

onei 7mo ago

I read that line and thought "so, the solution is code review?". What has to happen to your processes that code review is not only missing, but unironically claimed to be the solution? I know there are some companies that never did code review, but this is Amazon. They should know better.

rendaw 7mo ago
It's _more_ code review. They already had senior code review.

wrxd 7mo ago

This is going to end either with seniors rubber-stamping absolutely everything without even reading or with seniors blocking most of the slop for no overall productivity gain

Ekaros 7mo ago
Or if review is actually done I think there will be productivity loss. Juniors with help of AI can generate more code than seniors have time to review in full working day. So they won't have time left for any other work...
jcgrillo 7mo ago
It will not be the second thing. If you hold up "velocity" you're the problem and that problem will get fixed.
QuiEgo 7mo ago
No, it’s Amazon. If a senior blocks the slop they will be told they are not disagreeing and committing enough. If bugs get through they will be told they didn’t dive deep enough. It’s classic Amazon blame game. Someone gets left holding the bag for impossible asks (hint: it’s never the person doing the ask), and then gets piped and fired.