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I calculated only last weekend that my team would cost, if we would run Claude Code on retail API costs, around $200k/mo. We pay $1400/month in Max subscription
by anonzzzies 8mo ago
I calculated only last weekend that my team would cost, if we would run Claude Code on retail API costs, around $200k/mo. We pay $1400/month in Max subscriptions. So that's $50k/user... But what tokens CC is reporting in their json -> a lot of this must be cached etc, so doubt it's anywhere near $50k cost, but not sure how to figure out what it would cost and I'm sure as hell not going to try.
- jychang 8mo ago> but not sure how to figure out what it would cost and I'm sure as hell not going to try. Ask Opus to figure out how much it would cost. Lol.
- neamar 8mo agoYou can use `npx ccusage` to check your local logs and see how much it would have cost through the API.
- behehebd 8mo ago[flagged]
- scandox 8mo agoI'm fascinated to know the kind of work that allows you to intelligently allocate so much resources. I use Claude extensively and feel that I great value out of it but I reach a limit in terms of what I can do that makes sense relatively quickly it seems.
- codemog 8mo ago[flagged]
- ffsm8 8mo agoOmg, I can't believe that's real I wanted to believe that you're essentially trolling, but no - that service exist. And not an upstart, there is coverage going back several years. Our societies are seriously fucked.
- nemo44x 8mo agoThey are, but the dogs got it pretty good now. Good shows for good boys.
- ovi256 8mo agoOn the contrary, this gives me hope it's possible to create value for people even when you compete with hundreds of free Youtube playlists. This is good!
- remyp 8mo agoI haven't tried any of these products, but I do have a senior dog with very severe separation anxiety. She barks and destroys stuff the minute I step out the door until the minute I come back. I could keep her from destroying stuff with a crate, but the neighbors would still throw a fit about the barking. Effectively, this means that I have to hire a dog sitter every time I leave the house without her, just like an infant. If dog tv could fix this problem for me it would create an enormous amount of economic value.
- dathinab 8mo agoto be fair dogs watching TV isn't really new, people putting up some YT play list or similar is not that uncommon kinda like Netflix and YT have "fireplace" streams or how LG TVs can be setup as "digital picture frames" when not "actively" used but it being a dedicated service people pay money for is something new for me too
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- fennecfoxy 8mo agoNever have I read something that screamed Bay Area more than this lmao.
- blitzar 8mo agoThis product wouldnt be needed if they had a Juicero to dispense refreshing fresh squeezed juice anytime.
- 4ndrewl 8mo agoYou see, in any sane world the input box that can answer almost any question in the world should be more profitable than Netflix-for-dogs. But I bet it's not.
- lukan 8mo agoSame for me, but I suppose it is letting agents more loose and less checking of the code and rather throw away lots of generated output.
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- aweb 8mo agoI'm surprised, isn't it forbidden to use the Max plan as part of a company? Just curious, as I thought it was forbidden by the ToS but I'm not sure if I have a good understanding of it
- bloppe 8mo agoIf that were true, then everyone I know is violating that tos
- quikoa 8mo agoIf they believe a sufficient number is locked in then they may consider doing this later.
- ffsm8 8mo agoThere is nothing in the TOS last time I checked forbidding it's use with Claude code. It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. So getting Claude code subscriptions for developers should be permissable and not be against anything... However, if you created a rest endpoint to eg run a preconfigured prompt as part of your platform, that'd be against it But I'm neither a lawyer nor work for anthropic
- anonzzzies 8mo agoAh, that makes sense. I hope they mean that then. We are just devs using it to write code; not selling it on.
- ValentineC 8mo ago> It's only forbidden to utilize it in the running of the business. Sorry, but could you clarify what this means?
- ffsm8 8mo agoThe following paragraph had my clarification to that... Expressed differently: are you an individual using a official anthropic application interactively? You're fine. You're using it unattendedly, without an individual holding the reigns? You should probably talk with an lawyer wherever that's permissable. Again, IANAL nor do I work for anthropic
- sva_ 8mo agoGemini CLI shows how much was saved through caching each session, and it's usually somewhere around 90%
- tcbrah 8mo agoyeah the json token counts are super misleading. i run a bunch of claude agents for automation and like 85% of input tokens end up being cached reads -which cost 1/10th of the sticker price. so your $200k number is probably closer to $25-30k in real cost, and thats before you factor in that anthropics own infra is way cheaper than retail API pricing. the $5k forbes number was always nonsense but even the "corrected" estimates in TFA are probably still too high IMO
- kleton 8mo agoI proxy all of my llm completion subscriptions. In a typical 7d span- model completions read write cached_read cache_write claude-opus-4-6 11000 16900000 5840000 1312000000 66120000
- tgrowazay 8mo ago17M uncached reads (input) and 6M of uncached writes (output) is $5x17+$25x6=$235 for Opus 4.6 $2x17+$12x6=$106 for Gemini 3 Pro $0.60x17+$3.6x6=$31.80 for Qwen3.5 397B-A17B via Huggingface API
- kleton 8mo agoYou did not add up cache writes, which are $6.25 / MTok, which is another ~$400