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At this point, Windows just needs to die

by grougnax 7mo ago

baq 7mo ago
And what is there to replace it? macOS Tahoe?
- compounding_it 7mo ago
  Hopefully Tim’s exit soon will bring some fresh perspective at Apple where designers and engineers are given a driving seat and not the shareholders. Apple can do a 180 here and completely take over windows market share. They just need to stop making useless changes and stop with planned obsolescence when people literally are looking to switch.
  - celsius1414 7mo ago
    Could be Cook leaving, or could be even sooner: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/03/apple-alan-dye-joining-meta/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/03/apple-alan-dye-joining-...
- voxl 7mo ago
  Fedora Atomics
- shiroiuma 7mo ago
  OpenSUSE works great for me. Lots of other people swear by Mint, Fedora, etc.
- AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
  People keep acting like normal people can't use Linux, but that hasn't been true in more than ten years. Just have them start with something like Debian or Mint rather than something like Arch or Gentoo.
  - neilalexander 7mo ago
    No platform is perfect but I'd argue that desktop Linux still has far more many rough edges to contend with when something goes wrong. There are way too many problems for which "well just open the terminal and..." is the only solution.
    - AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
      The Windows equivalent solution is "open the registry editor and...", or worse, there isn't one, because the first person to fix it is going to need some technical competence and 36 hours if they have access to the source code, but if it's open source someone does it and posts the solution on the internet, whereas it would take a thousand hours without the source code, and then it's just an unresolved question on the Microsoft site with several other users saying "did anyone find a solution?" and no one saying yes. Or worse even still, you get a list of 50 wrong solutions none of which actually work because Microsoft doesn't want it fixed and keeps breaking it on purpose every time someone posts a workaround. Meanwhile when the Linux solution is to open the terminal and type the thing, and you open the terminal and type the thing, it actually fixes the problem.
  - pjmlp 7mo ago
    And the phone number as well, they will need it.
    - AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
      If someone can fix Windows problems by looking it up on the internet, they can fix Linux problems by looking it up on the internet. If they can't, they were going to call you anyway. Or worse, call the vendor and get snookered into an upsell. Or worse yet, call some random "Windows Support" number and give up their payment info. Are we all such jerks that we can't spend a few hours a year talking to our families and instead have to subject them to the ravages of whatever scammer's blogspam SEOs itself to the first page of Google?
      - 7mo ago
tomhow 7mo ago
Please don't post low-substance comments to HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

At this point, Windows just needs to die

baq 7mo ago

And what is there to replace it? macOS Tahoe?

compounding_it 7mo ago
Hopefully Tim’s exit soon will bring some fresh perspective at Apple where designers and engineers are given a driving seat and not the shareholders. Apple can do a 180 here and completely take over windows market share. They just need to stop making useless changes and stop with planned obsolescence when people literally are looking to switch.
- celsius1414 7mo ago
  Could be Cook leaving, or could be even sooner: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/03/apple-alan-dye-joining-meta/ https://www.macrumors.com/2025/12/03/apple-alan-dye-joining-...
voxl 7mo ago
Fedora Atomics
shiroiuma 7mo ago
OpenSUSE works great for me. Lots of other people swear by Mint, Fedora, etc.
AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
People keep acting like normal people can't use Linux, but that hasn't been true in more than ten years. Just have them start with something like Debian or Mint rather than something like Arch or Gentoo.
- neilalexander 7mo ago
  No platform is perfect but I'd argue that desktop Linux still has far more many rough edges to contend with when something goes wrong. There are way too many problems for which "well just open the terminal and..." is the only solution.
  - AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
    The Windows equivalent solution is "open the registry editor and...", or worse, there isn't one, because the first person to fix it is going to need some technical competence and 36 hours if they have access to the source code, but if it's open source someone does it and posts the solution on the internet, whereas it would take a thousand hours without the source code, and then it's just an unresolved question on the Microsoft site with several other users saying "did anyone find a solution?" and no one saying yes. Or worse even still, you get a list of 50 wrong solutions none of which actually work because Microsoft doesn't want it fixed and keeps breaking it on purpose every time someone posts a workaround. Meanwhile when the Linux solution is to open the terminal and type the thing, and you open the terminal and type the thing, it actually fixes the problem.
- pjmlp 7mo ago
  And the phone number as well, they will need it.
  - AnthonyMouse 7mo ago
    If someone can fix Windows problems by looking it up on the internet, they can fix Linux problems by looking it up on the internet. If they can't, they were going to call you anyway. Or worse, call the vendor and get snookered into an upsell. Or worse yet, call some random "Windows Support" number and give up their payment info. Are we all such jerks that we can't spend a few hours a year talking to our families and instead have to subject them to the ravages of whatever scammer's blogspam SEOs itself to the first page of Google?
    - 7mo ago

tomhow 7mo ago

Please don't post low-substance comments to HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html