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Everything you've said applies to parking tickets too. You can't prove that the owner parked the vehicle. Tha owner is ultimately civily liable if the vehicle
by joshuamorton 7mo ago
Everything you've said applies to parking tickets too. You can't prove that the owner parked the vehicle.
Tha owner is ultimately civily liable if the vehicle is parked in a way that it shouldn't be. Extending that same civil liability to the active operation, as opposed to only the consequences of active operation, seems perfectly reasonable.
- sjtgraham 7mo agoThe key difference is a parking ticket isn't $500.
- joshuamorton 7mo agoThe mentioned fines are $1-200, which is in the same range as parking tickets. I think the best argument is that license points are criminal in nature, but I don't really buy that.
- joshuamorton 7mo agoAnd in fact the law at issue doesn't even assign points.
- ImPostingOnHN 7mo ago> Tha owner is ultimately civily liable if the vehicle is parked in a way that it shouldn't be. Extending that same civil liability to the active operation, as opposed to only the consequences of active operation, seems perfectly reasonable. As this judgement reveals, such a suggestion is patently unreasonable, for the reasons listed in the judgement
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- joshuamorton 7mo agoHaving read the order, it doesn't really justify the central claim, that these are criminal, and in my opinion a lot of the context cuts against that (the liability being only a fine and some other things).
- ImPostingOnHN 7mo agoThat is a fair view to hold as a prior. Indeed, the judge took that context into account when judging that it was a criminal matter. Other states which do things differently might have received a different judgement based on their own context.