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>There's 100+ people the FBI had tabs on for sex trafficking related to Epstein. >So far the only individual that has been meaningfully punished has been Ghisl

by gruez 8mo ago

>There's 100+ people the FBI had tabs on for sex trafficking related to Epstein. >So far the only individual that has been meaningfully punished has been Ghislaine Maxwell. That factoid is meaningless without the rate of prosecutions/convictions for people that FBI "had tabs on".

cogman10 8mo ago
What rate are you looking for? With J6, in the matter of 2 or so years the FBI has secured over 1000 convictions. When it wants to, the FBI can move very quickly.
- ternaryoperator 8mo ago
  J6 is not a strong counterexample, IMHO. Part of the problem with Epstein is "proof beyond a reasonable doubt," for which evidence is needed--and, it appears, hard to come by. Whereas with J6, there were thousands of hours of footage showing the crimes being committed (and in many cases bragged about), which made prosecutions much easier.
- gruez 8mo ago
  >With J6, in the matter of 2 or so years the FBI has secured over 1000 convictions. Again, large numbers, but no context. How many people did you think were at the riots? 10k? 50k? Moreover, Jan 6th was an event that definitely happened. The same can't be said for whatever happened at Epstein's island. The island exists, Epstein's a convicted sex offender, and people flew there, but associating with sex offenders isn't a crime, no matter how despicable it might seem.
- TurdF3rguson 8mo ago
  They also had all those guys on camera doing crimes in Washington DC and bragging about it on Twitter.
  - threwawew 8mo ago
    What do you think Epstein was doing, if not recording people on cameras?
  - watwut 8mo ago
    FBI was literally sitting on Epstein files for years. They have chosen not to prosecute. When the state tried to investigate Epstein, FBI came in, took control over with claim they will share investigation results ... and then did nothing.
    - trick-or-treat 8mo ago
      I seem to remember him dying in a jail cell?
      - watwut 8mo ago
        Yes, which happened only because a journalist broke a story about how FBI was not investigating Epstein for years and years. It was media who forced that to happen, after decades of abuse FBI was aware of. Speaking of which, the previous conviction, the super sweet deal Acosta gave to Epstein before is also an example of elite unaccountability. FBI and friends protected Epstein until it became impossible.
        trick-or-treat 8mo ago
        Ok but can't you say that about most non-street-level convictions? That they required some amount of complaining for a detective to do their job?

by gruez 8mo ago

cogman10 8mo ago

What rate are you looking for? With J6, in the matter of 2 or so years the FBI has secured over 1000 convictions. When it wants to, the FBI can move very quickly.

ternaryoperator 8mo ago
J6 is not a strong counterexample, IMHO. Part of the problem with Epstein is "proof beyond a reasonable doubt," for which evidence is needed--and, it appears, hard to come by. Whereas with J6, there were thousands of hours of footage showing the crimes being committed (and in many cases bragged about), which made prosecutions much easier.
gruez 8mo ago
>With J6, in the matter of 2 or so years the FBI has secured over 1000 convictions. Again, large numbers, but no context. How many people did you think were at the riots? 10k? 50k? Moreover, Jan 6th was an event that definitely happened. The same can't be said for whatever happened at Epstein's island. The island exists, Epstein's a convicted sex offender, and people flew there, but associating with sex offenders isn't a crime, no matter how despicable it might seem.
TurdF3rguson 8mo ago
They also had all those guys on camera doing crimes in Washington DC and bragging about it on Twitter.
- threwawew 8mo ago
  What do you think Epstein was doing, if not recording people on cameras?
- watwut 8mo ago
  FBI was literally sitting on Epstein files for years. They have chosen not to prosecute. When the state tried to investigate Epstein, FBI came in, took control over with claim they will share investigation results ... and then did nothing.
  - trick-or-treat 8mo ago
    I seem to remember him dying in a jail cell?
    - watwut 8mo ago
      Yes, which happened only because a journalist broke a story about how FBI was not investigating Epstein for years and years. It was media who forced that to happen, after decades of abuse FBI was aware of. Speaking of which, the previous conviction, the super sweet deal Acosta gave to Epstein before is also an example of elite unaccountability. FBI and friends protected Epstein until it became impossible.
      - trick-or-treat 8mo ago
        Ok but can't you say that about most non-street-level convictions? That they required some amount of complaining for a detective to do their job?