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Sure. Do it as an increasing-upon-recurrence, two part fee though. 1st offence = base fee 2nd offence = base fee + minimal % of wealth fee 3rd offence = base

Sure. Do it as an increasing-upon-recurrence, two part fee though. 1st offence = base fee 2nd offence = base fee + minimal % of wealth fee 3rd offence = base fee + higher % of wealth fee offences thereafter = goto 3rd offence until some breaking point condition like gaol/jail. Otherwise the rich will happily pay to do whatever the hell they want.

buzzerbetrayed 8mo ago
How about you prove your claim by providing some evidence that the richer you are the more speeding tickets you get. Otherwise you're solving for a problem that doesn’t exist.
- no-name-here 8mo ago
  I read the grandparent comment's point as being about suggesting %-based fines. > prove your claim by providing some evidence that the richer you are the more speeding tickets you get. How/where did the grandparent comment claim that the rich get more speeding tickets? Even if the rich speed at a lower rate, would that make %-based fines a negative improvement? > a problem that doesn’t exist My assumption was the speeding is a problem no matter whether rich or poor, and that both exist. Is there disagreement there? Instead, I think their point was that even a $100 fine for a poor person may impact their ability to pay for groceries, childcare, etc, whereas for someone who has $10 million, etc., even a $1,000 fine will not impact their ability to pay for groceries, childcare, etc as they still have $9,999,000.
  - cindyllm 8mo ago
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- JasonADrury 8mo ago
  Expensive cars tend to accelerate faster, and it can be vastly harder to feel the speed. It would be unsurprising if up until some limit there was a correlation between wealth and the frequency of getting speeding tickets.
- _carbyau_ 7mo ago
  I made no such claim that such occurs. But I want to align societal incentives appropriately so that it shouldn't. You may note that a first offence makes no difference. It's only 2nd offences have a token minimal % - which should put a rich person on notice that such can occur. It's only 3rd and further offences that could seriously differentiate rich vs poor in penalty.
gus_massa 8mo ago
I prefer an exponential grow, it simplifies the calculations a lot and even Elon is only a few exponents order away from us.

buzzerbetrayed 8mo ago

How about you prove your claim by providing some evidence that the richer you are the more speeding tickets you get. Otherwise you're solving for a problem that doesn’t exist.

no-name-here 8mo ago
I read the grandparent comment's point as being about suggesting %-based fines. > prove your claim by providing some evidence that the richer you are the more speeding tickets you get. How/where did the grandparent comment claim that the rich get more speeding tickets? Even if the rich speed at a lower rate, would that make %-based fines a negative improvement? > a problem that doesn’t exist My assumption was the speeding is a problem no matter whether rich or poor, and that both exist. Is there disagreement there? Instead, I think their point was that even a $100 fine for a poor person may impact their ability to pay for groceries, childcare, etc, whereas for someone who has $10 million, etc., even a $1,000 fine will not impact their ability to pay for groceries, childcare, etc as they still have $9,999,000.
- cindyllm 8mo ago
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JasonADrury 8mo ago
Expensive cars tend to accelerate faster, and it can be vastly harder to feel the speed. It would be unsurprising if up until some limit there was a correlation between wealth and the frequency of getting speeding tickets.
_carbyau_ 7mo ago
I made no such claim that such occurs. But I want to align societal incentives appropriately so that it shouldn't. You may note that a first offence makes no difference. It's only 2nd offences have a token minimal % - which should put a rich person on notice that such can occur. It's only 3rd and further offences that could seriously differentiate rich vs poor in penalty.

gus_massa 8mo ago

I prefer an exponential grow, it simplifies the calculations a lot and even Elon is only a few exponents order away from us.