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You can save all of anything someone makes public with ATProto, ActivityPub, or RSS. You can do that with anything someone puts on a web page too, but those pro
by Zak 7mo ago
You can save all of anything someone makes public with ATProto, ActivityPub, or RSS. You can do that with anything someone puts on a web page too, but those protocols simplify automation.
I understand why people want to be able to delete things from the internet, but it doesn't work that way. It has never worked that way. It can't work that way unless every computer is locked down to running remotely attested government-approved software, and that's obviously worse.
- ghaff 7mo agoOnce you hit publish, it's public and anyone and everyone can save a copy and distribute it. If you don't like that, don't hit publish.
- verdverm 7mo agoATProto won't be this way for much longer. Permissioned data is coming and will not be broadcast or accessible without grants. This will sit next to the public data, but separate.
- jrm4 7mo agoSo ATProto is about to die, in other words. It was already wayyy too complex. And this? Yeah, they (you? sorry) really need to just give it up.
- verdverm 7mo agoThe vast majority of people don't want their activity broadcast out to the internet for anyone to grab. Permissioned / private data is non negotiable for any social media tech trying to gain mass adoption.
- jrm4 7mo agoAre you serious? Y'all are so confused about what this is. The entire point of services like Bluesky and Twitter is broadcasting your activity out to the internet for anyone to see (which of, course, is technically little-or-no different from "grab")
- verdverm 7mo agoATProto is not Bluesky, the later is just one app on the former. There are many more apps like Tangled, git on ATProto, which need private repositories. You seem rather confused. I do not work for Bluesky. I am an independent developer building completely separate applications on ATProto.
- ghaff 7mo agoI would say the opposite. If you don't want your activity public, don't put it on the Internet.
- verdverm 7mo agoHow do you think about Google Docs? I consider that "on the internet" since it is not on my computer. Same for private channels and threads in Discord. Also, ATProto can be much more than social media tech, more like a plug-n-play distributed system https://atproto.com/articles/atproto-for-distsys-engineers https://atproto.com/articles/atproto-for-distsys-engineers