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> The same can be said about any operating system. GNU/Linux is already supported without a (single) megacorp. So not all OSes have this problem.

charcircuit 8mo ago
Most of Linux is written by corporations and that's just a kernel, not a full operating system like ChromeOS which took Google to be able to build.
- fsflover 8mo ago
  I updated my comment to indicate GNU/Linux.
  - charcircuit 8mo ago
    That still uses the Linux kernel which uses the work of mega corporations.
    - fsflover 8mo ago
      Which is not the same as one single, hostile corp.
mpol 8mo ago
@charcircuit Sailfish is more like GNU/Linux, that is the OS in this context. For Jolla that is less code to maintain themselves then what Google maintains in Android/Linux. Hard forking Android/Linux looks to be quite a big bite to chew on.
- charcircuit 8mo ago
  Jolla doesn't need to hard fork AOSP. They can continue to benefit from the billions of dollars Google infests into AOSP and Android.
  - dijit 8mo ago
    infests is a nice freudian slip. When millions of dollars support a feature, that feature beats others- even technically superior ones, on the basis of support and polish. We’re all playing to the tune of what Google wants because Google has the power. Imagine a world where theres no Linux because MacOS and Windows paid lip service to people using partially functional derivatives of their OS’s, they’d still push things like liquid ass and windows recall, and those features would be spidered in. Then people would be saying “don’t use linux, you can just use WinCore” Even though using Wincore is aiding Windows commercial interests over those of the industry as a whole.
    - charcircuit 8mo ago
      If a product meets all of the needs of their users that's a good thing. It is a good thing to reward commercial entities for providing value to their users.
      - fsflover 8mo ago
        How do you know that the product meets the needs of users? From the usage? Did you hear about duopolies and walled gardens? Did you hear about banks forcing people on the duopoly?
        charcircuit 8mo ago
        Because if they didn't a competitor could get a foothold by solving those needs.
        fsflover 8mo ago
        No, it couldn't, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in
        charcircuit 8mo ago

charcircuit 8mo ago

Most of Linux is written by corporations and that's just a kernel, not a full operating system like ChromeOS which took Google to be able to build.

fsflover 8mo ago
I updated my comment to indicate GNU/Linux.
- charcircuit 8mo ago
  That still uses the Linux kernel which uses the work of mega corporations.
  - fsflover 8mo ago
    Which is not the same as one single, hostile corp.

mpol 8mo ago

@charcircuit Sailfish is more like GNU/Linux, that is the OS in this context. For Jolla that is less code to maintain themselves then what Google maintains in Android/Linux. Hard forking Android/Linux looks to be quite a big bite to chew on.

charcircuit 8mo ago
Jolla doesn't need to hard fork AOSP. They can continue to benefit from the billions of dollars Google infests into AOSP and Android.
- dijit 8mo ago
  infests is a nice freudian slip. When millions of dollars support a feature, that feature beats others- even technically superior ones, on the basis of support and polish. We’re all playing to the tune of what Google wants because Google has the power. Imagine a world where theres no Linux because MacOS and Windows paid lip service to people using partially functional derivatives of their OS’s, they’d still push things like liquid ass and windows recall, and those features would be spidered in. Then people would be saying “don’t use linux, you can just use WinCore” Even though using Wincore is aiding Windows commercial interests over those of the industry as a whole.
  - charcircuit 8mo ago
    If a product meets all of the needs of their users that's a good thing. It is a good thing to reward commercial entities for providing value to their users.
    - fsflover 8mo ago
      How do you know that the product meets the needs of users? From the usage? Did you hear about duopolies and walled gardens? Did you hear about banks forcing people on the duopoly?
      - charcircuit 8mo ago
        Because if they didn't a competitor could get a foothold by solving those needs.
        fsflover 8mo ago
        No, it couldn't, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in
        charcircuit 8mo ago