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Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Offi

Jay here: this is a transition I've been working towards for awhile, and I'm looking forward to advancing the vision and ecosystem as CIO (Chief Innovation Officer). Toni has been an advisor to us for years, and I personally recruited him to take over as CEO while I focus on new projects within the company. It's an honor to have him on board to lead us into this next stage of growth.

sourcegrift 7mo ago
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- brendoelfrendo 7mo ago
  Er, I don't know if she's discussed this elsewhere, but I don't think Jay is trans.
CactusBlue 7mo ago
How do you feel about the recent communication failures from the team to the userbase? As another builder of an open-source social platform, we must all understand that it is paramount for any company to not antagonize its customers, doubly so for a SOCIAL platform. I do understand that Bluesky and ATProto has to deal with a lot of baggage from both the old userbase and the new influx from the X/Twitter exodus, but engaging in user-antagonistic communication caused me to sour on the whole protocol.
- catapart 7mo ago
  Big time +1, here. Would love to hear something - anything - from the bsky team that takes some accountability.
- parl_match 7mo ago
  > user-antagonistic communication could you provide some examples? i didn't really see this, but maybe i just missed it
  - CactusBlue 7mo ago
    https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/
    - parl_match 7mo ago
      I don't like Jesse Singal's work or his political positions (he fucking sucks!), but this is hardly antagonistic except to maybe a small group of terminally online posters who take posting too seriously. Although, I guess that is the audience bluesky was targeting when they first started. So I guess I understand the criticism. Also, it is a very ironic demonstration of the pancakes/waffles meme. Interjecting into an unrelated topic to ask the mods to ban someone you don't like is a tradition as old as dial up BBS. So I'm glad to see the torch is being carried forward to a younger generation.
      - CactusBlue 7mo ago
        I don't even think having Jesse Singal on the platform is the problem (like it or not, I believe that all beings must have the right to communicate); the problem here was the communication failure when communicating this decision to the userbase. They could have just reiterated their rules and left it at that; instead, they chose to mock their userbase, write them off as harassment, and banned users left and right, abusing their position in network to censor people at every layer of the protocol.
        parl_match 7mo ago
        > instead, they chose to mock their userbase Doing the pancakes/waffles thing in the thread about pancakes/waffles is so fucking on the nose and demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness. > They could have just reiterated their rules and left it at that; instead, they chose to mock their userbase, write them off as harassment, and banned users left and right, abusing their position in network to censor people at every layer of the protocol. The more I dig into it, the more your one-sided whinging falls apart. I agree they could have handled it somewhat better, but I have very little sympathy for the terminally online bullshit that I'm seeing coming from the banned users. Anyways, I feel we're apart on this issue. Feel free to have the last word if you wish.
- jauntywundrkind 7mo ago
  Meh. People are going to antagonize themselves. Trying to win em all is a fools game. I wrote this to a discord on the 7th: > i know it's so obviously stupid, but i like that they are having fun with being online, even if it is at their users expense. and omg the users are so so awful to them, so much. again, it seems obviously bad to do, but i can't help but want them to keep at having fun online anyways. That was in semi private. I'd de-enohazize the expense part seirously, I'd spin it a little differently now, emphasizing more the Douglas Adams nature of it all: > In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people angry, and been widely regarded as a bad move. But that is also not owning it either, and I think this is an ownable lesson in just being human too, in deciding whether online mediums are corporate, lawyer, marketing, and engineer checked reviewed approved and wise correct words, or whether there must be some permission to be ourselves online, and some expectations that people are only human, and we should be thankful they are sharing their human experiences with us or not. It's not just having fun: whether we can be ourselves online is in question. Whether that is socially allowed. (And generally I haven't found the character of the team to be deeply off. They haven't been, in my view, going out of their way to create injury, but they have been sharing sides that people have never wanted to hear!) I see how this has been a bad taste for some. And I don't want to belittle your feelings here at all. Yes being more correct would be the wise obvious choice. Ultimately though I think these team member's are more beholden to remaining human, having fun, enjoying themselves. And to creating (to credit another soul in the discord) personal / compsable moderation & filter systems (not top down enforcement!) such that they can enjoy being a "main character" online (like it or not), even in the midst of strident focused directed continual hostility. Which is a capability atproto is truly uniquely without compare set up to support & enable. Props to the team. Please keep posting. Sorry about humanity. Sorry to people who are upset and turned off by this. No one is perfect, we work with what we got, and our responses are human and our own and valid, whether they are the wisest sharpest most all correct choice or no. With the good willing souls, we work towards synthesis & understanding; hopefully all sides find that agreeable.
- yuestion 7mo ago
  The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.
  - CactusBlue 7mo ago
    As a startup founder, your userbase is your god. Either treat them with utmost respect, or learn to explicitly fire your customers.
    - jauntywundrkind 7mo ago
      You have more than one user base. You have to make hard product decisions about which user bases to serve.
      - CactusBlue 7mo ago
        Then explicitly refuse service, instead of mocking your userbase.
        pfraze 7mo ago
        By... banning them? What are you suggesting?
    - yuestion 7mo ago
      If they want to remain a niche echo-chamber platform rather than become a major social network, that would be an appropriate strategy. However, I expect they have higher ambitions. What they should also do is redesign (or remove) the "nuclear block" feature. In its current state, it helps perpetuate a hostile and exclusionary atmosphere to new users, which isn't going to help Bluesky grow an active and diverse userbase.
  - marxisttemp 7mo ago
    They should focus on implementing ActivityPub instead of their useless proprietary protocol
Dracophoenix 7mo ago
Since you're now focusing on the AT protocol, will E2EE/OTR become a priority?
- danabramov 7mo ago
  There's a recent post by Daniel (who works on atproto) on why E2EE is not a current focus: https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a
  - big_toast 7mo ago
    Is there any discussion somewhere about adding in the data that makes the x.com/twitter recommend/ranker so functional? The "Grok-based Transformer"[0] that uses P(click/dwell/not_interested/photo_expand/video_view) seems pretty important and I can't tell how atproto is capturing it. I use @spacecowboy17.bsky.social‬'s For You and from what I understand that feed wouldn't get that data? [0]:https://github.com/xai-org/x-algorithm?tab=readme-ov-file#scoring-and-ranking https://github.com/xai-org/x-algorithm?tab=readme-ov-file#sc... (this isn't an endorsement of grok/x, it's more that the transformer recommender has been very steerable via those signals in my experience) (I also struggle with the omni-purpose likes - endorsement, approval, discover-algorithm-input. Maybe a more prominent more/less button addresses this, but then provides less network signal.)
    - johnecheck 7mo ago
      Personally, I really like that my feeds aren't getting that level of granular detail. I prefer the explicit control I have with 'Show more like this' and 'Show less like this'.
      - big_toast 7mo ago
        I generally think that. But letting dwell time/clicks/open-rates expand the recommender and then (bound to swipe) 'disinterested'/'show less like this' to cull has been pretty efficient. I used to feel dumped into simclusters and now I see a more specific subset of posts I prefer (while still casting what feels like a wide net). I really liked when bsky introduced the 'show more/less' and then expanded it to custom feeds. But I'm afraid the recommender systems work better with more data. And I think the feed operator alone gets sent a limited set of interactions? I'm not exactly sure how it would work in atproto but I could imagine an enriched 'graph-interactivity' where you can turn on and off which/how much signal/privacy you want.
egorfine 7mo ago
Is the new blocking age verification page the kind of innovation we should expect from BlueSky?
- esskay 7mo ago
  Counterpoint - its a legal requirement in several parts of the world now (and rapidly expanding), how do you think they should handle it whilst you know...still being able to exist?
  - wolvoleo 7mo ago
    It was supposed to be decentralised though, meaning there would be no central party to pursue.
    - Klonoar 7mo ago
      What makes you think a nation state level entity can't pursue in this case...?
      - wolvoleo 7mo ago
        The same reason even nation state actors have not managed to eradicate torrents. You take one tracker down, another pops back up.
      - morcus 7mo ago
        It kinda of confuses me when use the term "nation state" instead of just "state". For example Canada is not a nation-state but surely they are powerful and important enough that they could also pursue this kind of case.
        lII1lIlI11ll 7mo ago
        This has been a pet peeve of mine for some time now. It seems people just feel smarter using a fancy terms instead of "a state" or "a government".
ChicagoDave 7mo ago
If there was an Internet Technology hall of fame, your work with atproto would qualify. One big innovation is to drag a large bank or Stripe on board to enable payments on the network. Good luck!
- brchr 7mo ago
  FYI, There is absolutely an Internet Hall of Fame and anyone would be welcome to nominate Jay! https://www.internethalloffame.org https://www.internethalloffame.org
- bushbaba 7mo ago
  Why would Jay get the award when they didn’t actually lead or build such protocol?
  - pfraze 7mo ago
    Jay was directly involved in the design of the protocol
yieldcrv 7mo ago
I'm glad you were able to reach your goal, been following your professional journey since I met you at a silicon valley event 10 years ago, looking forward to what you do with the ecosystem
yuestion 7mo ago
With the new CEO in place, are there any plans to deal with the obnoxious userbase of Bluesky, and perhaps try to expand it out to reach people who don't exhibit such high levels of toxicity?
- whattheheckheck 7mo ago
  Yeah its the same plans Elon has for X
- smt88 7mo ago
  This is a valid question. I agree politically with a lot of Bluesky users and still find it to be an awful space to hang out in.
  - acjohnson55 7mo ago
    I agree, I'm sorry to say. I personally believe it's because they replicated the same incentive structure as Twitter. Being provocative generates engagement, which gets you reach and creates the perception of relevance. At first, people were just happy to be at an alternative to Elon Twitter. But good vibes only get you so far when the incentives point the other direction.
  - meowface 7mo ago
    It's insufferable, yes. Even though I'm a left-liberal, it feels foreign to me. Twitter is worse at the limit (endless neo-Nazis and Maoists) but at least I feel some diversity while I'm there. Bluesky is so uniform in the annoyingness of its community.
- OhioMan2943 7mo ago
  As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go- it's not the fault of Graber or anyone else- but they should allow people to turn off the turbo redditor type people with a few settings.
  - 7mo ago
marxisttemp 7mo ago
Why did you deliberately steal Mastodon’s thunder? Why don’t you support ActivityPub?
- danabramov 7mo ago
  ActivityPub does not solve any of the stated goals of atproto. Comparing ActivityPub with atproto is like pitting Email against Web. These are just differently shaped solutions to differently shaped problems.
- KoftaBob 7mo ago
  What thunder? Mastodon has had nearly a decade to go mainstream and it's still mostly tech enthusiasts explaining to their friends what an 'instance' is. ActivityPub is fine if you enjoy your identity being held hostage by whatever random server admin decides to keep the lights on. Want to move servers? Hope you're cool with losing your followers. Want real account portability? Too bad. Want scalable search and flexible moderation? Also too bad. ATproto wasn't built to compete with Mastodon out of pettiness, it was built because ActivityPub fundamentally cannot accomplish the task that ATProto/Bluesky is aiming for: a decentralized social network that isn't a cumbersome pain in the ass to use.
  - tapoxi 7mo ago
    How many Bluesky servers are there?
    - danabramov 7mo ago
      This isn’t Mastodon so a “Bluesky server” isn’t a thing. Mastodon is shaped like email so you have “servers” sending messages to each other. Atproto is shaped more like RSS with aggregation. Everyone posts data to their hosting (which anyone could move at any time), and apps like Bluesky aggregate data from everyone’s hosting. So a concept like “Bluesky server” is nonsensical. What you have is “atproto hosting” (which can be provided by Bluesky, by other communities, by other companies, or can be self-hosted — it’s all open source and you can even implement your own) and “Bluesky app” (of which there’s only one — but there are forks like Blacksky which fork the entire stack including the server). There also “other atproto apps” like https://leaflet.pub https://leaflet.pub, https://tangled.org https://tangled.org, etc, which have nothing to do with Bluesky.
sbinnee 7mo ago
Thanks for commenting on here. I do own bluesky account, but it's been dormant, shamefully. So I appreciate your comment on HN! Can folks, including me, have hints what sorts of innovative features or changes we will see?
rps93 7mo ago
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stackghost 7mo ago
Hi Jay, It's my understanding that Toni was so uninterested in bsky that his account was inactive. What makes Toni the right person at the helm, even in the interim?
etchalon 7mo ago
You did such amazing things. I'm excited to see what you do next.
vincnetas 7mo ago
Question about Bluesky and Persona integration. As i understand there are plans to delegate government id verifications to Persona? (https://withpersona.com https://withpersona.com) Any confirmation? Comments?
- popalchemist 7mo ago
  Jay please answer this.
  - egorfine 7mo ago
    Did you notice that not one company who implemented KYC has answered any comment on this in HN?
    - popalchemist 7mo ago
      Yes, they are scumbag bootlickers who are willingly and knowingly accelerating the end of western values and the creation of a dystopia.
- blackqueeriroh 7mo ago
  You understand it from where?

sourcegrift 7mo ago

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brendoelfrendo 7mo ago
Er, I don't know if she's discussed this elsewhere, but I don't think Jay is trans.

CactusBlue 7mo ago

How do you feel about the recent communication failures from the team to the userbase? As another builder of an open-source social platform, we must all understand that it is paramount for any company to not antagonize its customers, doubly so for a SOCIAL platform. I do understand that Bluesky and ATProto has to deal with a lot of baggage from both the old userbase and the new influx from the X/Twitter exodus, but engaging in user-antagonistic communication caused me to sour on the whole protocol.

catapart 7mo ago
Big time +1, here. Would love to hear something - anything - from the bsky team that takes some accountability.
parl_match 7mo ago
> user-antagonistic communication could you provide some examples? i didn't really see this, but maybe i just missed it
- CactusBlue 7mo ago
  https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/05/waffles-eat-bluesky/
  - parl_match 7mo ago
    I don't like Jesse Singal's work or his political positions (he fucking sucks!), but this is hardly antagonistic except to maybe a small group of terminally online posters who take posting too seriously. Although, I guess that is the audience bluesky was targeting when they first started. So I guess I understand the criticism. Also, it is a very ironic demonstration of the pancakes/waffles meme. Interjecting into an unrelated topic to ask the mods to ban someone you don't like is a tradition as old as dial up BBS. So I'm glad to see the torch is being carried forward to a younger generation.
    - CactusBlue 7mo ago
      I don't even think having Jesse Singal on the platform is the problem (like it or not, I believe that all beings must have the right to communicate); the problem here was the communication failure when communicating this decision to the userbase. They could have just reiterated their rules and left it at that; instead, they chose to mock their userbase, write them off as harassment, and banned users left and right, abusing their position in network to censor people at every layer of the protocol.
      - parl_match 7mo ago
        > instead, they chose to mock their userbase Doing the pancakes/waffles thing in the thread about pancakes/waffles is so fucking on the nose and demonstrates a complete lack of self awareness. > They could have just reiterated their rules and left it at that; instead, they chose to mock their userbase, write them off as harassment, and banned users left and right, abusing their position in network to censor people at every layer of the protocol. The more I dig into it, the more your one-sided whinging falls apart. I agree they could have handled it somewhat better, but I have very little sympathy for the terminally online bullshit that I'm seeing coming from the banned users. Anyways, I feel we're apart on this issue. Feel free to have the last word if you wish.
jauntywundrkind 7mo ago
Meh. People are going to antagonize themselves. Trying to win em all is a fools game. I wrote this to a discord on the 7th: > i know it's so obviously stupid, but i like that they are having fun with being online, even if it is at their users expense. and omg the users are so so awful to them, so much. again, it seems obviously bad to do, but i can't help but want them to keep at having fun online anyways. That was in semi private. I'd de-enohazize the expense part seirously, I'd spin it a little differently now, emphasizing more the Douglas Adams nature of it all: > In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people angry, and been widely regarded as a bad move. But that is also not owning it either, and I think this is an ownable lesson in just being human too, in deciding whether online mediums are corporate, lawyer, marketing, and engineer checked reviewed approved and wise correct words, or whether there must be some permission to be ourselves online, and some expectations that people are only human, and we should be thankful they are sharing their human experiences with us or not. It's not just having fun: whether we can be ourselves online is in question. Whether that is socially allowed. (And generally I haven't found the character of the team to be deeply off. They haven't been, in my view, going out of their way to create injury, but they have been sharing sides that people have never wanted to hear!) I see how this has been a bad taste for some. And I don't want to belittle your feelings here at all. Yes being more correct would be the wise obvious choice. Ultimately though I think these team member's are more beholden to remaining human, having fun, enjoying themselves. And to creating (to credit another soul in the discord) personal / compsable moderation & filter systems (not top down enforcement!) such that they can enjoy being a "main character" online (like it or not), even in the midst of strident focused directed continual hostility. Which is a capability atproto is truly uniquely without compare set up to support & enable. Props to the team. Please keep posting. Sorry about humanity. Sorry to people who are upset and turned off by this. No one is perfect, we work with what we got, and our responses are human and our own and valid, whether they are the wisest sharpest most all correct choice or no. With the good willing souls, we work towards synthesis & understanding; hopefully all sides find that agreeable.
yuestion 7mo ago
The most vocal and obnoxious of the Bluesky userbase get antagonized by pretty much anything. Pleasing that lot is a fruitless task. What Bluesky should do now is focus on expanding their userbase away from this particular group of insufferables.
- CactusBlue 7mo ago
  As a startup founder, your userbase is your god. Either treat them with utmost respect, or learn to explicitly fire your customers.
  - jauntywundrkind 7mo ago
    You have more than one user base. You have to make hard product decisions about which user bases to serve.
    - CactusBlue 7mo ago
      Then explicitly refuse service, instead of mocking your userbase.
      - pfraze 7mo ago
        By... banning them? What are you suggesting?
  - yuestion 7mo ago
    If they want to remain a niche echo-chamber platform rather than become a major social network, that would be an appropriate strategy. However, I expect they have higher ambitions. What they should also do is redesign (or remove) the "nuclear block" feature. In its current state, it helps perpetuate a hostile and exclusionary atmosphere to new users, which isn't going to help Bluesky grow an active and diverse userbase.
- marxisttemp 7mo ago
  They should focus on implementing ActivityPub instead of their useless proprietary protocol

Dracophoenix 7mo ago

Since you're now focusing on the AT protocol, will E2EE/OTR become a priority?

danabramov 7mo ago
There's a recent post by Daniel (who works on atproto) on why E2EE is not a current focus: https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a https://dholms.leaflet.pub/3meluqcwky22a
- big_toast 7mo ago
  Is there any discussion somewhere about adding in the data that makes the x.com/twitter recommend/ranker so functional? The "Grok-based Transformer"[0] that uses P(click/dwell/not_interested/photo_expand/video_view) seems pretty important and I can't tell how atproto is capturing it. I use @spacecowboy17.bsky.social‬'s For You and from what I understand that feed wouldn't get that data? [0]:https://github.com/xai-org/x-algorithm?tab=readme-ov-file#scoring-and-ranking https://github.com/xai-org/x-algorithm?tab=readme-ov-file#sc... (this isn't an endorsement of grok/x, it's more that the transformer recommender has been very steerable via those signals in my experience) (I also struggle with the omni-purpose likes - endorsement, approval, discover-algorithm-input. Maybe a more prominent more/less button addresses this, but then provides less network signal.)
  - johnecheck 7mo ago
    Personally, I really like that my feeds aren't getting that level of granular detail. I prefer the explicit control I have with 'Show more like this' and 'Show less like this'.
    - big_toast 7mo ago
      I generally think that. But letting dwell time/clicks/open-rates expand the recommender and then (bound to swipe) 'disinterested'/'show less like this' to cull has been pretty efficient. I used to feel dumped into simclusters and now I see a more specific subset of posts I prefer (while still casting what feels like a wide net). I really liked when bsky introduced the 'show more/less' and then expanded it to custom feeds. But I'm afraid the recommender systems work better with more data. And I think the feed operator alone gets sent a limited set of interactions? I'm not exactly sure how it would work in atproto but I could imagine an enriched 'graph-interactivity' where you can turn on and off which/how much signal/privacy you want.

egorfine 7mo ago

Is the new blocking age verification page the kind of innovation we should expect from BlueSky?

esskay 7mo ago
Counterpoint - its a legal requirement in several parts of the world now (and rapidly expanding), how do you think they should handle it whilst you know...still being able to exist?
- wolvoleo 7mo ago
  It was supposed to be decentralised though, meaning there would be no central party to pursue.
  - Klonoar 7mo ago
    What makes you think a nation state level entity can't pursue in this case...?
    - wolvoleo 7mo ago
      The same reason even nation state actors have not managed to eradicate torrents. You take one tracker down, another pops back up.
    - morcus 7mo ago
      It kinda of confuses me when use the term "nation state" instead of just "state". For example Canada is not a nation-state but surely they are powerful and important enough that they could also pursue this kind of case.
      - lII1lIlI11ll 7mo ago
        This has been a pet peeve of mine for some time now. It seems people just feel smarter using a fancy terms instead of "a state" or "a government".

ChicagoDave 7mo ago

If there was an Internet Technology hall of fame, your work with atproto would qualify. One big innovation is to drag a large bank or Stripe on board to enable payments on the network. Good luck!

brchr 7mo ago
FYI, There is absolutely an Internet Hall of Fame and anyone would be welcome to nominate Jay! https://www.internethalloffame.org https://www.internethalloffame.org
bushbaba 7mo ago
Why would Jay get the award when they didn’t actually lead or build such protocol?
- pfraze 7mo ago
  Jay was directly involved in the design of the protocol

yieldcrv 7mo ago

I'm glad you were able to reach your goal, been following your professional journey since I met you at a silicon valley event 10 years ago, looking forward to what you do with the ecosystem

yuestion 7mo ago

With the new CEO in place, are there any plans to deal with the obnoxious userbase of Bluesky, and perhaps try to expand it out to reach people who don't exhibit such high levels of toxicity?

whattheheckheck 7mo ago
Yeah its the same plans Elon has for X
smt88 7mo ago
This is a valid question. I agree politically with a lot of Bluesky users and still find it to be an awful space to hang out in.
- acjohnson55 7mo ago
  I agree, I'm sorry to say. I personally believe it's because they replicated the same incentive structure as Twitter. Being provocative generates engagement, which gets you reach and creates the perception of relevance. At first, people were just happy to be at an alternative to Elon Twitter. But good vibes only get you so far when the incentives point the other direction.
- meowface 7mo ago
  It's insufferable, yes. Even though I'm a left-liberal, it feels foreign to me. Twitter is worse at the limit (endless neo-Nazis and Maoists) but at least I feel some diversity while I'm there. Bluesky is so uniform in the annoyingness of its community.
OhioMan2943 7mo ago
As one of the first 10k beta users, who was fairly active, then moved back to twitter, I agree with this. The userbase is extremely off putting from the get go- it's not the fault of Graber or anyone else- but they should allow people to turn off the turbo redditor type people with a few settings.
- 7mo ago

marxisttemp 7mo ago

Why did you deliberately steal Mastodon’s thunder? Why don’t you support ActivityPub?

danabramov 7mo ago
ActivityPub does not solve any of the stated goals of atproto. Comparing ActivityPub with atproto is like pitting Email against Web. These are just differently shaped solutions to differently shaped problems.
KoftaBob 7mo ago
What thunder? Mastodon has had nearly a decade to go mainstream and it's still mostly tech enthusiasts explaining to their friends what an 'instance' is. ActivityPub is fine if you enjoy your identity being held hostage by whatever random server admin decides to keep the lights on. Want to move servers? Hope you're cool with losing your followers. Want real account portability? Too bad. Want scalable search and flexible moderation? Also too bad. ATproto wasn't built to compete with Mastodon out of pettiness, it was built because ActivityPub fundamentally cannot accomplish the task that ATProto/Bluesky is aiming for: a decentralized social network that isn't a cumbersome pain in the ass to use.
- tapoxi 7mo ago
  How many Bluesky servers are there?
  - danabramov 7mo ago
    This isn’t Mastodon so a “Bluesky server” isn’t a thing. Mastodon is shaped like email so you have “servers” sending messages to each other. Atproto is shaped more like RSS with aggregation. Everyone posts data to their hosting (which anyone could move at any time), and apps like Bluesky aggregate data from everyone’s hosting. So a concept like “Bluesky server” is nonsensical. What you have is “atproto hosting” (which can be provided by Bluesky, by other communities, by other companies, or can be self-hosted — it’s all open source and you can even implement your own) and “Bluesky app” (of which there’s only one — but there are forks like Blacksky which fork the entire stack including the server). There also “other atproto apps” like https://leaflet.pub https://leaflet.pub, https://tangled.org https://tangled.org, etc, which have nothing to do with Bluesky.

sbinnee 7mo ago

Thanks for commenting on here. I do own bluesky account, but it's been dormant, shamefully. So I appreciate your comment on HN! Can folks, including me, have hints what sorts of innovative features or changes we will see?

rps93 7mo ago

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stackghost 7mo ago

Hi Jay, It's my understanding that Toni was so uninterested in bsky that his account was inactive. What makes Toni the right person at the helm, even in the interim?

etchalon 7mo ago

You did such amazing things. I'm excited to see what you do next.

vincnetas 7mo ago

Question about Bluesky and Persona integration. As i understand there are plans to delegate government id verifications to Persona? (https://withpersona.com https://withpersona.com) Any confirmation? Comments?

popalchemist 7mo ago
Jay please answer this.
- egorfine 7mo ago
  Did you notice that not one company who implemented KYC has answered any comment on this in HN?
  - popalchemist 7mo ago
    Yes, they are scumbag bootlickers who are willingly and knowingly accelerating the end of western values and the creation of a dystopia.
blackqueeriroh 7mo ago
You understand it from where?