OK none of this is scientific - just observations: A lot of old school (shall we call them) programmers are still operating but in their "comfort zone" in VB5

OK none of this is scientific - just observations: A lot of old school (shall we call them) programmers are still operating but in their "comfort zone" in VB5 and VB6 - which is why they are not searching for new information and tools on the Net. Lot's of occasional programmers have just given up - there is a good deal more "bodging" of mini apps using spreadsheets within businesses that I get a chance to observe. This is probably good for the overall quality of corporate code but worrying - while some of those old VB apps were pretty clunky home grown spreadsheets are just about guaranteed to be buggy and likely to lead to management errors/