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> meaning CBP personnel would have to manually untangle the amounts. Processing each individual refund takes about 5 minutes, which across 53 million entries wo

> meaning CBP personnel would have to manually untangle the amounts. Processing each individual refund takes about 5 minutes, which across 53 million entries works out to over 4.4 million hours. Assuming nobody looks at the requirements of the problem to write a single line of code in order to tool up to the task.

arealaccount 8mo ago
They'd have to beef up the servers to accommodate the extra processing and we all know how much RAM costs these day
b112 8mo ago
CBP says it needs 45 days to build new software before it can start writing checks. Honestly? It doesn't seem unreasonable if it really is 45 days. Imagine if they started working on software additions for mass refunds, and the decision went the other way? And they didn't have to refund? Wouldn't they be wasting money for no reason?
- mandevil 8mo ago
  Then they should have mentioned that in their court filings! The reason that the tariffs were collected while there was doubts as to their legality is that the US Government promised, in court filings (courts literally marked this as estoppel in a ruling: they are unable to change their mind on it, locked in argument) that they could repay this easily, and so courts allowed them to collect it while they figured out the legality. When they promised this, if it did require software changes, they should have done that then, or else they were lying to courts. This is why the judges are not giving them any slack here. They promised to courts that this could be done easily, in such a way that they can't change their mind now. This is all very basic tenets of law that even non-lawyers can understand.
- ElevenLathe 8mo ago
  They would at least be wasting "their own" (taxpayer) money, instead of punishing random importers with chaotic effects to our entire globalized system of political economy.
psadauskas 8mo ago
How many hours did it take to charge all those illegal tariffs, though? Surely not the 500 years they say it'll take to refund them /s
budman1 8mo ago
Many lifetimes ago I worked on a project where all customer desired changes were 'scoped' by engineering. A little report was written about how the change could be implemented, to include any possible complications and a LOC estimate. My manager, did not want us to do a customer desired change. So he wrote the 'impact report'. The problem basically required taking functionality that applied to 1 thing, and made it apply to an (existing) array of things. His solution was as if arrays did not exist, and the resulting LOC was N times bigger than it actually was going to be. Of course, this change was not authorized until the manager left, and someone that knew it was BS spoke up. Same thing here.

arealaccount 8mo ago

They'd have to beef up the servers to accommodate the extra processing and we all know how much RAM costs these day

b112 8mo ago

CBP says it needs 45 days to build new software before it can start writing checks. Honestly? It doesn't seem unreasonable if it really is 45 days. Imagine if they started working on software additions for mass refunds, and the decision went the other way? And they didn't have to refund? Wouldn't they be wasting money for no reason?

mandevil 8mo ago
Then they should have mentioned that in their court filings! The reason that the tariffs were collected while there was doubts as to their legality is that the US Government promised, in court filings (courts literally marked this as estoppel in a ruling: they are unable to change their mind on it, locked in argument) that they could repay this easily, and so courts allowed them to collect it while they figured out the legality. When they promised this, if it did require software changes, they should have done that then, or else they were lying to courts. This is why the judges are not giving them any slack here. They promised to courts that this could be done easily, in such a way that they can't change their mind now. This is all very basic tenets of law that even non-lawyers can understand.
ElevenLathe 8mo ago
They would at least be wasting "their own" (taxpayer) money, instead of punishing random importers with chaotic effects to our entire globalized system of political economy.

psadauskas 8mo ago

How many hours did it take to charge all those illegal tariffs, though? Surely not the 500 years they say it'll take to refund them /s

budman1 8mo ago

Many lifetimes ago I worked on a project where all customer desired changes were 'scoped' by engineering. A little report was written about how the change could be implemented, to include any possible complications and a LOC estimate. My manager, did not want us to do a customer desired change. So he wrote the 'impact report'. The problem basically required taking functionality that applied to 1 thing, and made it apply to an (existing) array of things. His solution was as if arrays did not exist, and the resulting LOC was N times bigger than it actually was going to be. Of course, this change was not authorized until the manager left, and someone that knew it was BS spoke up. Same thing here.