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This war against Iran is really an Israeli and US effort to distract from the high ranking pedos.

testbjjl 7mo ago
The manner in which the U.S. was abruptly dragged in certainly warrants some clarification. Americans stranded, potential allies caught by surprise, no plan, no end game other than complete and total surrender. What does that mean. I appreciate many will have their own interpretations but objectively what does it mean.
- mc32 7mo ago
  I’ve heard from interviews of former gov emps that their understanding is there was months long surveillance and planning.
  - testbjjl 7mo ago
    I heard from interviews on the news in response to comments made by a U.S. Senator that asking for help without being included in the planning is shortsighted. It’s difficult to know why, what isn’t happening, has happened. Something tells me complete and total surrender will be difficult to objectively measure, especially in the longer term. $1b per day before boots are on the ground seems expensive for squishy outcomes.
  - netsharc 7mo ago
    An Instagram video I saw (yeah I know, great source) said that the idea is to cut off oil supply to China, which was getting it from Venezuela and Iran. That the 2 events are connected is new to me, and it's surprising considering the Trump regime acts seemingly more like a chicken with its head cut off. But maybe it's all in service to Putin, who will now get to fill his war chest with the profits of the high-priced oil he can sell to China, and India...
gos9 7mo ago
Incredibly fanciful and ignorant take
- CamperBob2 7mo ago
  Any further details?
zetanor 7mo ago
Was Stuxnet a part of this effort?
hexyl_C_gut 7mo ago
It is the cause of the war (blackmail) not a distraction from it.
- octopoc 7mo ago
  Exactly. Trump is a populist. He backs down on issues he finds are unpopular. But he’s doubling down in his pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, anti-Iran stances. When a populist stops doing what is popular, they are revealing their core values—or in this case, he’s revealing who owns him.
  - libertine 7mo ago
    Who owns him?
    - _menelaus 7mo ago
      Israel, because they compromised him through the Epstein operation
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        According to the report[0] presented by Sen. Shelden Whitehouse, everything points in the direction of Epstein working for Russia. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWPxsba878 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWPxsba878
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libertine 7mo ago
Trying to dilute what's really happening with a broader conspiracy theory isn't helpful. Isn't what the administration doing directly to influence the case enough to be a red flag? Let the war be what it is: an incompetent decision that will be costly in all aspects.
euroderf 7mo ago
I wonder who on the outside of the Epstein operation had the best access to its recordings. Was it Israel (via Mossad)? Was it Putin (via who the heck knows)? Maybe both of them did. But related to this speculation, I would like to read more about the relationship between those two. There's something rotten in the state of it.
- mindslight 7mo ago
  I get the impression that Trump viewed kompromat honey traps as an all-you-can-eat buffet, and Epstein was only a tip of the iceberg. It lessens the individual power each has over you when you can play them off against one another - "Yes Mr Putin Sir, I would love to do that for you but I have to check with Israel and everyone else first". So probably all of the above - Israel via Epstein, Putin via whomever Trump got all those loans from, etc.
heavyset_go 7mo ago
Operation Epstein Fury is in full swing and will be over any week now, we promise.
thunky 7mo ago
I think that's just the cherry on top. The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership. Of course it helps that US is just as bloodthirsty as Israel and gets a boner from killing easy targets.
- red-iron-pine 7mo ago
  > The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership. "idiot" implies that they did not entirely engineer this situation via Epstein -- which they did, by getting anyone rich and powerful on camera fucking kids the Russians got some of that too, blackmail material I mean

The manner in which the U.S. was abruptly dragged in certainly warrants some clarification. Americans stranded, potential allies caught by surprise, no plan, no end game other than complete and total surrender. What does that mean. I appreciate many will have their own interpretations but objectively what does it mean.

mc32 7mo ago
I’ve heard from interviews of former gov emps that their understanding is there was months long surveillance and planning.
- testbjjl 7mo ago
  I heard from interviews on the news in response to comments made by a U.S. Senator that asking for help without being included in the planning is shortsighted. It’s difficult to know why, what isn’t happening, has happened. Something tells me complete and total surrender will be difficult to objectively measure, especially in the longer term. $1b per day before boots are on the ground seems expensive for squishy outcomes.
- netsharc 7mo ago
  An Instagram video I saw (yeah I know, great source) said that the idea is to cut off oil supply to China, which was getting it from Venezuela and Iran. That the 2 events are connected is new to me, and it's surprising considering the Trump regime acts seemingly more like a chicken with its head cut off. But maybe it's all in service to Putin, who will now get to fill his war chest with the profits of the high-priced oil he can sell to China, and India...

gos9 7mo ago

Incredibly fanciful and ignorant take

CamperBob2 7mo ago
Any further details?

zetanor 7mo ago

Was Stuxnet a part of this effort?

hexyl_C_gut 7mo ago

It is the cause of the war (blackmail) not a distraction from it.

octopoc 7mo ago
Exactly. Trump is a populist. He backs down on issues he finds are unpopular. But he’s doubling down in his pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, anti-Iran stances. When a populist stops doing what is popular, they are revealing their core values—or in this case, he’s revealing who owns him.
- libertine 7mo ago
  Who owns him?
  - _menelaus 7mo ago
    Israel, because they compromised him through the Epstein operation
    - libertine 7mo ago
      According to the report[0] presented by Sen. Shelden Whitehouse, everything points in the direction of Epstein working for Russia. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWPxsba878 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWPxsba878
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libertine 7mo ago

Trying to dilute what's really happening with a broader conspiracy theory isn't helpful. Isn't what the administration doing directly to influence the case enough to be a red flag? Let the war be what it is: an incompetent decision that will be costly in all aspects.

euroderf 7mo ago

I wonder who on the outside of the Epstein operation had the best access to its recordings. Was it Israel (via Mossad)? Was it Putin (via who the heck knows)? Maybe both of them did. But related to this speculation, I would like to read more about the relationship between those two. There's something rotten in the state of it.

mindslight 7mo ago
I get the impression that Trump viewed kompromat honey traps as an all-you-can-eat buffet, and Epstein was only a tip of the iceberg. It lessens the individual power each has over you when you can play them off against one another - "Yes Mr Putin Sir, I would love to do that for you but I have to check with Israel and everyone else first". So probably all of the above - Israel via Epstein, Putin via whomever Trump got all those loans from, etc.

heavyset_go 7mo ago

Operation Epstein Fury is in full swing and will be over any week now, we promise.

thunky 7mo ago

I think that's just the cherry on top. The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership. Of course it helps that US is just as bloodthirsty as Israel and gets a boner from killing easy targets.

red-iron-pine 7mo ago
> The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership. "idiot" implies that they did not entirely engineer this situation via Epstein -- which they did, by getting anyone rich and powerful on camera fucking kids the Russians got some of that too, blackmail material I mean