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... and kills more than 100 children. What does it take, exactly, for Donald Trump to be formally accused of war crimes and arrested on sight if he ever visits

by realo 7mo ago

... and kills more than 100 children. What does it take, exactly, for Donald Trump to be formally accused of war crimes and arrested on sight if he ever visits some actually civilized countries?

buddhistdude 7mo ago
it would take for him to be less powerful and psycho
- idle_zealot 7mo ago
  Power is a social construct. Our institutions are being dismantled and collapsing, but they retain a vestige of legitimacy owing to the fact that most Americans haven't experienced much change in their quality of life. Wait until the gas pumps run dry or people start missing meals, and "power" has a way of evaporating pretty quickly.
  - mothballed 7mo ago
    That and much worse happened in the ~1675-1775 era of English and chartered company and proprietors lording over the American people, including actions that lead to mass starvation and death. It still took 100 years to totally throw off that yoke, though there were a few failed rebellions (like Bacon's).
Arubis 7mo ago
Backbone, a special ops team, and a willingness to risk being assassinated.
kspacewalk2 7mo ago
This strike is a fuck-up. Could be a mistake, could be a crime attributable to a person somewhere in the middle-ish of the chain of command, or even at the very bottom. You need a pattern of such strikes to move the needle firmly into "intentional government-wide war crime" territory.
- Twistyfiasco 7mo ago
  Why though? Do we really need a pattern of strikes or could we just hold the biggest military in the world to a slightly higher standard? Why equivocate away responsibility to 'oh it could have been private so and so who murdered 100+ school children. Shrug.'.
- culi 7mo ago
  Last I heard 16 hospitals have been damaged and 7 are no longer able to operate. Is that a pattern yet? They are also explicitly targeting residences where they believe officials live with their families (which is also a war crime). Even if you think they are simply wreckless, it is well-established that wrecklessness still constitutes war crimes
  - nullocator 7mo ago
    Israel has a (recent) history of bombing hospitals, and committing warcrimes and I believe they are also engaged with Iran. This attack on Iran is wrong from both parties and all targets are unacceptable, but do you have any articles or evidence that the U.S. damaged these hospitals?
    - culi 7mo ago
      This is from 4 days ago so it says 13 but no doubt the count has increased since then https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/at-least-dozen-hospital-and-health-facilities-in-iran-hit-since-us-israel-attacks-began-who-says https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/a... > At least 13 hospitals and other health facilities have been hit during the US-Israel attacks on Iran, global health chiefs have said.The World Health Organization (WHO) said it was checking reports that four medics had been killed and 25 others injured. And here's Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2026/3/5/explosions-rock-tehran-as-israel-intensifies-strikes-on-government-sites https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2026/3/5/explosions-rock-t... > The Iranian Red Crescent chief said that at least 3,090 homes, 528 commercial centres, 13 medical facilities and nine Red Crescent centres have been hit in Israeli-US strikes. Officials reported damage to major medical facilities, including Khatam Hospital, Gandhi Hospital, and various rehabilitation and welfare centres. > Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs claimed on Thursday that the US and Israeli strikes have targeted 33 civilian locations nationwide, including hospitals, schools, residential areas, the Tehran Grand Bazaar, and the historic Golestan Palace complex – a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

by realo 7mo ago

... and kills more than 100 children. What does it take, exactly, for Donald Trump to be formally accused of war crimes and arrested on sight if he ever visits some actually civilized countries?

buddhistdude 7mo ago

it would take for him to be less powerful and psycho

idle_zealot 7mo ago
Power is a social construct. Our institutions are being dismantled and collapsing, but they retain a vestige of legitimacy owing to the fact that most Americans haven't experienced much change in their quality of life. Wait until the gas pumps run dry or people start missing meals, and "power" has a way of evaporating pretty quickly.
- mothballed 7mo ago
  That and much worse happened in the ~1675-1775 era of English and chartered company and proprietors lording over the American people, including actions that lead to mass starvation and death. It still took 100 years to totally throw off that yoke, though there were a few failed rebellions (like Bacon's).

Arubis 7mo ago

Backbone, a special ops team, and a willingness to risk being assassinated.

kspacewalk2 7mo ago

This strike is a fuck-up. Could be a mistake, could be a crime attributable to a person somewhere in the middle-ish of the chain of command, or even at the very bottom. You need a pattern of such strikes to move the needle firmly into "intentional government-wide war crime" territory.

Twistyfiasco 7mo ago
Why though? Do we really need a pattern of strikes or could we just hold the biggest military in the world to a slightly higher standard? Why equivocate away responsibility to 'oh it could have been private so and so who murdered 100+ school children. Shrug.'.
culi 7mo ago
Last I heard 16 hospitals have been damaged and 7 are no longer able to operate. Is that a pattern yet? They are also explicitly targeting residences where they believe officials live with their families (which is also a war crime). Even if you think they are simply wreckless, it is well-established that wrecklessness still constitutes war crimes
- nullocator 7mo ago
  Israel has a (recent) history of bombing hospitals, and committing warcrimes and I believe they are also engaged with Iran. This attack on Iran is wrong from both parties and all targets are unacceptable, but do you have any articles or evidence that the U.S. damaged these hospitals?
  - culi 7mo ago
    This is from 4 days ago so it says 13 but no doubt the count has increased since then https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/at-least-dozen-hospital-and-health-facilities-in-iran-hit-since-us-israel-attacks-began-who-says https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/mar/05/a... > At least 13 hospitals and other health facilities have been hit during the US-Israel attacks on Iran, global health chiefs have said.The World Health Organization (WHO) said it was checking reports that four medics had been killed and 25 others injured. And here's Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2026/3/5/explosions-rock-tehran-as-israel-intensifies-strikes-on-government-sites https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2026/3/5/explosions-rock-t... > The Iranian Red Crescent chief said that at least 3,090 homes, 528 commercial centres, 13 medical facilities and nine Red Crescent centres have been hit in Israeli-US strikes. Officials reported damage to major medical facilities, including Khatam Hospital, Gandhi Hospital, and various rehabilitation and welfare centres. > Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs claimed on Thursday that the US and Israeli strikes have targeted 33 civilian locations nationwide, including hospitals, schools, residential areas, the Tehran Grand Bazaar, and the historic Golestan Palace complex – a UNESCO World Heritage Site.