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Carbon taxes are huge, and they are 100% politically imposed. And they're often disingenously included in fossil fuel pricing to claim that green energy is fun
by cbeach 7mo ago
Carbon taxes are huge, and they are 100% politically imposed.
And they're often disingenously included in fossil fuel pricing to claim that green energy is fundamentally cheaper.
I believe in climate change, and I believe in doing something about it. But being disingenous with the public is only going to create resentment and resistance to Net Zero.
- p_j_w 7mo ago> And they're often disingenously included in fossil fuel pricing to claim that green energy is fundamentally cheaper. There’s nothing unreasonable about this: fossil fuels have huge costs associated with them that are invisible to the consumer. They’ve just been getting pushed off onto other people forever.
- cbeach 7mo agoBy all means, calculate an arbitrary uplift on the price based on your own definitions of externalities. But don't expect me to take you seriously when you directly compare a raw price of renewable energy with an uplifted price of fossil fuels. Especially when your quoted price for renewable energy ignores the cost of grid upgrades, storage infrastructure, and externalities associated with mining materials to manufactur solar panels and wind turbines etc (as happened recently in UK parliament when the energy minister did a very dubious comparison between energy prices)
- triceratops 7mo ago> externalities associated with mining materials to manufactur solar panels and wind turbine Solar panels can be recycled, so eventually they will need very little mining. Have you ever recycled gasoline? Have you ever heard of the Deepwater Horizon? I think you're being disingenuous while accusing others.
- cbeach 7mo agoEven if all the solar panels in the world were recycled, you’ve barely scratched the surface of the points I made.
- triceratops 7mo agoYou haven't made any.