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Owner of ICE detention facility sees big opportunity in AI man camps
- mothballed 7mo agoThese man camp style minimal housing seem like a good solution to the housing crisis, but my guess is some bean counter has made it illegal to use these economical SROs for anything other than despotism.
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- markus_zhang 7mo agoIs it some sort of the camps in the Terminator movies? /s
- vrganj 7mo agoWork in a camp run by the people that also run concentration camps for undesirables, what a tempting proposition...
- iainmerrick 7mo agoI’d like to recommend Kate Beaton’s book Ducks to get a vivid feel for what these “man camps” are like. That book is about camps attached to oil fields in Alberta, but the “AI camps” described here sound very similar.
- semiquaver 7mo agoDid not expect to see that excellent book mentioned here, but I co-sign.
- Lerc 7mo agoThe existence of temporary accommodation for workers in construction projects should not be the issue. It seems like this is a necessary and sensible thing. The problem is with the quality of that accommodation. It is also worth noting that there should not be an issue due to the fact that the accommodation provider also supplies accommodation for asylum seekers, because they should be providing acceptable accommodation to those people too. You can probably add prisons to that list too. Workers, immigrants, and prisoners all deserve reasonable living conditions. Why people are being housed in a place is irrelevant. The AI link in this story seems to be simply because there are construction projects involving AI, that seems rather spurious. They wont be the first or last construction projects. Those workers deserve (and probably don't get) the support they need whether they are building a data center, a Casino, or a hospital.
- Aurornis 7mo agoOr you could click the link in the article where they talk about the temporary housing for data centers, including the perks they’re including like “free steaks” and golf. Oil fields in Alberta are a very different situation than high budget AI data centers in the US.
- iainmerrick 7mo agoWhat makes it very different? It sounds quite similar to me. Each is a lucrative business that requires lots of physical infrastructure to be built out, and therefore needs a large but temporary influx of construction workers and engineers.
- Aurornis 7mo agoHow is it not different? These aren’t remote oil fields. The workers could commute to the data centers if they didn’t want to stay at temporary housing. The article and the one it links to say that the temporary housing is a perk that they’re offering to try to entice workers. It includes gyms, nice food, and activities like golf. The comparison above to bad oil fields in Canada is arbitrary. Not all temporary housing must be like oil field accommodations in remote Canadian oil fields.
- gmerc 7mo agoFeels like one of the solutions to get rid of poor people as a whole? https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01156952.pdf https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA011569...
- vrganj 7mo agoClass warfare is very real. The oligarchs are the only ones fighting right now. Maybe that should change?
- red-iron-pine 7mo agoluigi mangioni made an attempt
- 999900000999 7mo agoObviously they'll force detainees to build data centers in due time. This is the ultimate dream of Late Stage Capitalism. The vast majority of detainees are non violent, most aren't even 'criminals' aside from overstaying a visa. There's a parallel with California's prison firefighter brigades. In order to pay the merciful State for your own imprisonment, you shall work on the data centers. Oracle demands it. Sure on paper it's a voluntary program, but Oracle as promised better food in exchange for work . It's not completely out of the realm of possibility for a detainees to end up manning these detention facilities as well. You'd be surprised at how many skilled workers, many of which actually have status, end up getting detained anyway.
- sigwinch 7mo agoCould be that the temporary housing for construction workers transitions into detainment. Having an AI data canter close to a detainment facility streamlines security. Will the whole facility run on diesel and StarLink? Independent of the surrounding community and conveniently-failure-prone power and Internet?
- Lerc 7mo agoI'm not sure what part of that classifies it as Late Stage Capitalism. The Hulks Act was passed in 1776. The 13th amendment in 1865 explicitly carves it out "neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime"
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- geremiiah 7mo ago>AI man camps Anyone who studied Engineering or Computer science already knows what this is like, lol.
- OJFord 7mo agoView from across the globe: > Owner of ICE detention facility [...] Oh, right, of course these things are privately owned..!
- spiderfarmer 7mo agoThe next time any EU politician visits the US they should bring up human rights, like we expect(ed) them to do when they visit China.
- antonvs 7mo agoAlso election integrity. It’s past the point where the US needs international observers for its elections.
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- Forgeties79 7mo ago^that’s bait
- u_sama 7mo agoThis is exactly how every EU country conducts their elections, it is crazy to paint this as some bait or crazy thing
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- Kipters 7mo agoWhat kind of dystopian horror is this?
- kashunstva 7mo agoI wonder how long it will take them to link the dots to join their businesses.
- Aurornis 7mo agoThey tried to fit a lot of ragebait into this article and headline, but the TL;DR appears to be that this company wants to build temporary housing near construction sites so workers don’t have to commute as far if they don’t want to. The only actually criticism of the temporary housing is that it’s “gray” but they note it has access to a gym. Clicking a link to the other article describing them says they have “free steaks” and access to golf. My cousin works in construction and some times gets job where the money is great but he has to drive 2 hours to the site and 2 hours home or even more. Temporary housing seems like it would be helpful while doing those jobs.
- dustractor 7mo agoI like steak as much as the next guy but there's no way I'd eat the free "steak" offered to me by someone who owns an ICE facility.
- sebastiennight 7mo agoThis just in: the facility just got bought by Soylent, LLC. They now offer smoothies as well as free steaks
- red-iron-pine 7mo agothat sounds like misery. similar uses of nutraloaf have been ruled cruel and unusual punishment in the prison system
- sebastiennight 7mo agoI was sarcastically making a combination of Soylent (the meal replacement company), and its inspiration, the fictional Soylent Green [0], which secretly made its food products from processed human bodies. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
- yardie 7mo agoAirlines regularly change the operating base of their flight and cabin crew. Then the crew is either forced to uproot their lives or rent a "crashpad", usually a small apartment stacked full of beds near their airport base.
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- mikkupikku 7mo agoFlagrant clickbait, flagged. Headline makes it sound like concentration camps with AI wardens, but actually it's just normal temporary housing for construction workers building data centers.
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- duncan-donuts 7mo agoThe key distinction here is that the temporary workers would presumably be people who are in federal custody and currently housed in ICE facilities. The temporary housing isn’t the issue.
- antonvs 7mo agoThere’s no suggestion of that in the article.
- numeri 7mo agoNo, that's what the headline implies, and the body of the article doesn't support at all. It's (currently, and with no indication of intent to change this) two separate branches of their business.
- Aurornis 7mo agoThe article does not say this in any way. It’s just temporary housing for construction workers.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoThat the headline could be read to suggest such a thing is due to it being clickbait.
- nahuel0x 7mo agoArbeit macht frei
- dkackman11 7mo agoOver/under on "all of these 'detainees' are sitting around doing nothing" converging with this?
- jollyllama 7mo agoIf it's like fracking, the man-camps will become a hub for trafficking of camp-followers.
- adolph 7mo agoThis style of camp was popularized as housing for men working in remote oil fields. Its kinda weird to not see temporary workforce housing as some recent phenomena, especially given a recent TV show (I havn't watched it) about a particular railroad construction camp. Work that occurs in remote places requires holistic logistics for the workforce, similar to expeditionary warfare. Hell on Wheels is an American Western television series about the construction of the first transcontinental railroad across the United States [...] chronicles the Union Pacific Railroad and its laborers, mercenaries, prostitutes, surveyors, and others who lived, worked, and died in the mobile encampment, called "Hell on Wheels", that followed the railhead west across the Great Plains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_on_Wheels_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_on_Wheels_(TV_series)
- samrus 7mo agoSaint peter dont you call me cause i cant gooooo I owe my soul to the compary stooooore