The irony is all those Java and .NET haters, jumping into startups selling the dream of doing application servers packaged in Kubernetes pods. Plus, having to

The irony is all those Java and .NET haters, jumping into startups selling the dream of doing application servers packaged in Kubernetes pods. Plus, having to watch talks selling the idea as if no one had ever done it before. This even ignoring operating systems where the whole userspace was bytecode based.