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OpenAI: - we are building Open AI - only if you have more than $10B net worth - we are against using AI for military purposes - except when that case is allow

OpenAI: - we are building Open AI - only if you have more than $10B net worth - we are against using AI for military purposes - except when that case is allowed by government - we are on a mission to help humanity - again, we define humanity as set of people with more than $10B net worth - surrender? - sure, sure, we will, only to people with more than $10B net worth, they can do whatever they want to our models, we will surrender to them

dkwmdkfkdk 7mo ago
Anyone can make these silly negations. As if any other big corp is different. And as if your own imaginary big corp (if you took the time and effort to try to achieve, that is) would have behaved differently given enough pressure from investors and share holders. This is all just very naive
- tombert 7mo ago
  Sorry, no, you shouldn't just handwave away bad behavior just because it's common. That's ridiculous. If big corporations do things that are unethical, they should be called out, even if they're common. Saying "well everyone's doing it", isn't a good excuse to do things that are unethical. It's not "naive" to point out the lies that OpenAI told to get to the point that they are now. They were claiming to be a non-profit for awhile, they grew in popularity based in part on that early good-will, and now they are a for-profit company looking to IPO into one of the most valuable corporations on the planet. That's a weird thing. That's a thing that seems to be kind of antithetical to their initial purpose. People should point that out.
- PunchyHamster 7mo ago
  > Anyone can make these silly negations. As if any other big corp is different. The point you're desperately trying to miss is that most other companies don't put up those moral claims in the first place
reppap 7mo ago
Sam Altman is just another Elon Musk. Saying whatever he thinks sounds good in the moment.
- kakacik 7mo ago
  Its much, much broader. Almost all of them up there are hardcore sociopaths. When they look at you, they see a tool and source of revenue, not a human being. To be used, and then thrown away. Musk, Bezos, Gates, Schmidt, Altman, Thiel and so on and on. Most career politicians are similar. Is this really the garbage that should lead humanity to our future? Because inevitably that will be a dark future for 99.99% of the humans. And no, you and you won't be part of that 0.01% or whatever tiny number of elite think they are better than rest of us.
wrsh07 7mo ago
You've attached to the $10b number - is that illustrative or is there something specific you're referring to?

dkwmdkfkdk 7mo ago

Anyone can make these silly negations. As if any other big corp is different. And as if your own imaginary big corp (if you took the time and effort to try to achieve, that is) would have behaved differently given enough pressure from investors and share holders. This is all just very naive

tombert 7mo ago
Sorry, no, you shouldn't just handwave away bad behavior just because it's common. That's ridiculous. If big corporations do things that are unethical, they should be called out, even if they're common. Saying "well everyone's doing it", isn't a good excuse to do things that are unethical. It's not "naive" to point out the lies that OpenAI told to get to the point that they are now. They were claiming to be a non-profit for awhile, they grew in popularity based in part on that early good-will, and now they are a for-profit company looking to IPO into one of the most valuable corporations on the planet. That's a weird thing. That's a thing that seems to be kind of antithetical to their initial purpose. People should point that out.
PunchyHamster 7mo ago
> Anyone can make these silly negations. As if any other big corp is different. The point you're desperately trying to miss is that most other companies don't put up those moral claims in the first place

reppap 7mo ago

Sam Altman is just another Elon Musk. Saying whatever he thinks sounds good in the moment.

kakacik 7mo ago
Its much, much broader. Almost all of them up there are hardcore sociopaths. When they look at you, they see a tool and source of revenue, not a human being. To be used, and then thrown away. Musk, Bezos, Gates, Schmidt, Altman, Thiel and so on and on. Most career politicians are similar. Is this really the garbage that should lead humanity to our future? Because inevitably that will be a dark future for 99.99% of the humans. And no, you and you won't be part of that 0.01% or whatever tiny number of elite think they are better than rest of us.

wrsh07 7mo ago

You've attached to the $10b number - is that illustrative or is there something specific you're referring to?