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If ebikes are a nuisance or a danger then cars weighing 100× more should be even more concerning. Yet cars are a "fact of life" and bikes are a "nuisance" someh

by andrepd 7mo ago

If ebikes are a nuisance or a danger then cars weighing 100× more should be even more concerning. Yet cars are a "fact of life" and bikes are a "nuisance" somehow... Go figure.

xnx 7mo ago
It sounds like you don't live in a city with an ebike delivery problem. I'd prefer a city with fewer human driven cars, but ebikes being ridden erratically (40mph against traffic, through red lights, on the sidewalk, etc.) sucks.
- andrepd 7mo ago
  > It sounds like you don't live in a city with an ebike delivery problem Oh but I do. Or actually, in a city with many delivery ebikes but no "ebike problem" . Why? Because there's bike infrastructure. Meaning segregated lanes to ride a bike (and overall good urban design in general). On a given street or road there's a place to drive a car, a place do ride a bike, a place for the bus/tram to go, and a place to walk. Is this really so difficult? Tell me if you please, in a city where there's only a place to drive and a place to walk, where exactly are bikes (delivery or not) supposed to go? Cars kill several times more than even the most maniac ebike riders possibly can. They also emit pollution that kills swathes of people (an invisible, background death). It's just common sense.
boringg 7mo ago
Thats funny. Non scrupulous ebikers rip through pedestrian sections. And i agree with the other commentator, you obviously dont live in a dense city with e bike delivery.
- andrepd 7mo ago
  > Non scrupulous ebikers rip through pedestrian sections. You're right. A car driver would never rip through a crosswalk or kill someone. That argument is stupid. Cars kill several times more people than ebikes ever will. It's nonsensical to be worried about a minor issue while treating a much more serious one as a fact of life. > you obviously dont live in a dense city with e bike delivery. Yeah but I do. The thing is I also live in a city with bike infrastructure, so bikes (delivery or not) can move safely without annoying anyone.

by andrepd 7mo ago

If ebikes are a nuisance or a danger then cars weighing 100× more should be even more concerning. Yet cars are a "fact of life" and bikes are a "nuisance" somehow... Go figure.

xnx 7mo ago

It sounds like you don't live in a city with an ebike delivery problem. I'd prefer a city with fewer human driven cars, but ebikes being ridden erratically (40mph against traffic, through red lights, on the sidewalk, etc.) sucks.

andrepd 7mo ago
> It sounds like you don't live in a city with an ebike delivery problem Oh but I do. Or actually, in a city with many delivery ebikes but no "ebike problem" . Why? Because there's bike infrastructure. Meaning segregated lanes to ride a bike (and overall good urban design in general). On a given street or road there's a place to drive a car, a place do ride a bike, a place for the bus/tram to go, and a place to walk. Is this really so difficult? Tell me if you please, in a city where there's only a place to drive and a place to walk, where exactly are bikes (delivery or not) supposed to go? Cars kill several times more than even the most maniac ebike riders possibly can. They also emit pollution that kills swathes of people (an invisible, background death). It's just common sense.

boringg 7mo ago

Thats funny. Non scrupulous ebikers rip through pedestrian sections. And i agree with the other commentator, you obviously dont live in a dense city with e bike delivery.

andrepd 7mo ago
> Non scrupulous ebikers rip through pedestrian sections. You're right. A car driver would never rip through a crosswalk or kill someone. That argument is stupid. Cars kill several times more people than ebikes ever will. It's nonsensical to be worried about a minor issue while treating a much more serious one as a fact of life. > you obviously dont live in a dense city with e bike delivery. Yeah but I do. The thing is I also live in a city with bike infrastructure, so bikes (delivery or not) can move safely without annoying anyone.