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Meh. What they really need to fix is Maps. In my family-and-friends ecosystem at least, that is the single reason NO devices have been updated to iOS 6 and no

Meh. What they really need to fix is Maps. In my family-and-friends ecosystem at least, that is the single reason NO devices have been updated to iOS 6 and nobody is buying any iPhone 5's. My rough guess that that represents about at least 30, if not 50 devices. Is there a website somewhere that is tracking Apple Maps quality vs. Google Maps? I know tons of people that have put updates and new-device purchases on hold due to Maps. I have a friend who owns a delivery company. All the drivers have iPhones. No updates, hardware or software. Apple Maps would turn his business upside-down.

xoail 14y ago
The unfortunate thing is people need to use maps in order for maps to get better. I can already see few locations being corrected. But for now, looks like Apple's got a chicken and egg problem.
- mitchty 14y ago
  Basically yes, I've reported as many issues as I know for my area. They all get put in place in about 1-2 weeks I've noticed. I don't see why every ones bitching so badly, I have to do the same for google maps too every so often when its wrong. Maps is getting its data from a server, it doesn't really need to be tied to OS updates to improve its backend data.
- klapinat0r 14y ago
  Could you please elaborate on that? Not sure I follow. If people use it, get wrong directions, how does it improve? Are users able to make corrections or?
  - joesb 14y ago
    Yes, that's what "Report a problem" is for.
  - _djo_ 14y ago
    Yes, users can submit corrections using the 'Report a Problem' option in Maps. Apple will also be able to correct certain types of data, such as roads, by collecting and aggregating info from iPhones.
  - mitchty 14y ago
    Yes you as the user hit the report button when you see something wrong and it gets updated behind the scenes.
  - smackfu 14y ago
    The "report a problem" for wrong directions isn't particularly good though. It just has you pick one of your recent routes and then you enter in a comment saying what was wrong from memory. Google's system is better: you can pick which step is wrong and then there are radio buttons for issues like "illegal turn" or "incorrect road name".
joshuahedlund 14y ago
I don't doubt your anecdotes - I waited until last weekend to update my own - but my Google Analytics data for multiple sites shows iOS 6 with more traffic than all the other iOS versions combined for the entire month of October, and on an upward pace. Clearly a large number of people are not so hesitant.
- smackfu 14y ago
  Interesting. Other sources make it seem like the rate of upgrades has stalled. For instance, this chart has iOS 6 at low 60's percent for all of October: http://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/ http://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

xoail 14y ago

The unfortunate thing is people need to use maps in order for maps to get better. I can already see few locations being corrected. But for now, looks like Apple's got a chicken and egg problem.

mitchty 14y ago
Basically yes, I've reported as many issues as I know for my area. They all get put in place in about 1-2 weeks I've noticed. I don't see why every ones bitching so badly, I have to do the same for google maps too every so often when its wrong. Maps is getting its data from a server, it doesn't really need to be tied to OS updates to improve its backend data.
klapinat0r 14y ago
Could you please elaborate on that? Not sure I follow. If people use it, get wrong directions, how does it improve? Are users able to make corrections or?
- joesb 14y ago
  Yes, that's what "Report a problem" is for.
- _djo_ 14y ago
  Yes, users can submit corrections using the 'Report a Problem' option in Maps. Apple will also be able to correct certain types of data, such as roads, by collecting and aggregating info from iPhones.
- mitchty 14y ago
  Yes you as the user hit the report button when you see something wrong and it gets updated behind the scenes.
- smackfu 14y ago
  The "report a problem" for wrong directions isn't particularly good though. It just has you pick one of your recent routes and then you enter in a comment saying what was wrong from memory. Google's system is better: you can pick which step is wrong and then there are radio buttons for issues like "illegal turn" or "incorrect road name".

joshuahedlund 14y ago

I don't doubt your anecdotes - I waited until last weekend to update my own - but my Google Analytics data for multiple sites shows iOS 6 with more traffic than all the other iOS versions combined for the entire month of October, and on an upward pace. Clearly a large number of people are not so hesitant.

smackfu 14y ago
Interesting. Other sources make it seem like the rate of upgrades has stalled. For instance, this chart has iOS 6 at low 60's percent for all of October: http://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/ http://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/