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The economic web is an interesting concept, but so far is failed. Nostr is probably the most successful experiment, but it remains a failure because: - it lack
by kkfx 7mo ago
The economic web is an interesting concept, but so far is failed. Nostr is probably the most successful experiment, but it remains a failure because:
- it lacks a design that makes complete sense, i.e. a generic communication tool that combines short posts (Reddit model or private one like SMSs) with long-form notes (blog post model or private ones like emails) chats + audio-video where possible, including the archiving of the same; ultimately, it lacks a SINGLE self-hosted application that acts as a relay, but also as a web/local client, with Reddit/Lemmy-style posts, long-form blog posts, configurable with a few themes and easy to modify, chats, etc. We have Haven, which isn't bad but is just a "multi-purpose" relay + Blossom server (media attached to notes), there's Habla for blog use which does nothing else, there's 0xchat which still doesn't really work well outside its own relays... Nostr could be "the address book of the citizens of the web" with WoT to help and individual self-hosted instances as their digital home; it could be, but it isn't, and often messages posted outside of 4 giant "hub" relays simply aren't found by anyone, replies don't reach the recipient depending on the relays they are posted on, etc.
- it lacks a cohesive community; it's full of PoCs that are actually quite nice, but they're written and then abandoned. Almost no one seems intent on maintaining their own code.
- a lot is announced, correctly following the "release early, release often" model, but it goes nowhere.
Once upon a time, we had the hugely successful eMule/KAD for file sharing, we had ZeroNet for "websites without hosting" which largely failed; what's missing is essentially an application that serves modern public communication all-in-one, in a classic decentralised form like the KAD network, where everyone shares their own stuff and those not behind NAT help those who are to bypass it, and that's it. AT ITS CORE, people came for a function and discover the others, then you can plug in an economic aspect: "want my videos in higher resolution? Yes, I have them, for a fee", "want my books from which I extract articles here and there that you like? They're available, but for a fee", and so on. The foundation, the user economy, should only be the gift of storage and bandwidth, period. No needs to pay dedicated services nor directly nor via fees.
Otherwise, we're going nowhere (like Staker News), or if we do go somewhere, it won't be where we want to be and it won't work quite as we'd hoped at the start. Nowadays spam is easy enough to control at personal levels even with dbacl filtering and gnus scoring. That's not the problem. The problem is having something distributed enough since our connections can sustain a significant overhead, to avoid pay third party services, get easy censorship etc.
People's need for comms vary, give a single tool who support many, something easy to deploy, self-contained as much as possible, is the key to harvest users for a reason and they discover other reasons and enough other humans to stay.