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I’m naturalized—very, very long term—but I couldn’t find any stats that track by US citizens. I suppose that makes me a second-class citizen?

bicx 8mo ago
It means that if we cut off or discourage immigration, we can’t count on non-native citizens to continue boosting our numbers. So, we have to look at the native-born stats to get an idea of our future.
- 46493168 8mo ago
  The future is a labor shortage. Good for wages, bad for inflation.
- nobodyandproud 8mo ago
  Yes, but why not have both? Why only native? I can’t help but think talks of denaturalization are more than just fringe. Or perhaps the numbers are starkly different, and for the best?
46493168 8mo ago
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bojan 8mo ago
You have one right fewer than natively born Americans - you can't become the President. Make of that what you will.
- tialaramex 8mo ago
  This is another one of the weird American-isms that many Americans don't realise isn't normal everywhere else. Boris Johnson was born in New York. "He wasn't born in this country" probably wasn't even on anybody's top-100 problems with Boris as Prime Minister.
  - RaptorJ 8mo ago
    The US president is both Head of State and Head of Government. It turns out there's a bunch of countries that require the head of state to be a natural born citizen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_qualifications_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_qualifica...
  - wavemode 8mo ago
    I wouldn't call it an Americanism, per se. There are plenty of countries where you can't become a citizen at all without having a relative who is one. There are also plenty of countries where, even being born there is not sufficient for citizenship (in fact, only 35 countries in the world grant citizenship unconditionally via being born within the borders).
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  - hx8 8mo ago
    The requirements to be US President isn't to be born in the US, but to be a "natural born citizen." While the rules of being a natural born citizen is more complicated if born outside of the US, you can generally become one if one of your parents is a US citizen.
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- nobodyandproud 8mo ago
  I don’t mind it. Learned about it in elementary. But not stat tracking citizenship employment seems like a blind spot?
- admissionsguy 8mo ago
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  - nobodyandproud 8mo ago
    Every time I wonder why I don’t lean more Republican, gems like this jog me back. There’s a lot of reasons not to like Obama’s 8 years or why he wasn’t the best candidate. But for god’s sakes, this isn’t one of them.
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bicx 8mo ago

It means that if we cut off or discourage immigration, we can’t count on non-native citizens to continue boosting our numbers. So, we have to look at the native-born stats to get an idea of our future.

46493168 8mo ago
The future is a labor shortage. Good for wages, bad for inflation.
nobodyandproud 8mo ago
Yes, but why not have both? Why only native? I can’t help but think talks of denaturalization are more than just fringe. Or perhaps the numbers are starkly different, and for the best?

46493168 8mo ago

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bojan 8mo ago

You have one right fewer than natively born Americans - you can't become the President. Make of that what you will.

tialaramex 8mo ago
This is another one of the weird American-isms that many Americans don't realise isn't normal everywhere else. Boris Johnson was born in New York. "He wasn't born in this country" probably wasn't even on anybody's top-100 problems with Boris as Prime Minister.
- RaptorJ 8mo ago
  The US president is both Head of State and Head of Government. It turns out there's a bunch of countries that require the head of state to be a natural born citizen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_qualifications_by_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidential_qualifica...
- wavemode 8mo ago
  I wouldn't call it an Americanism, per se. There are plenty of countries where you can't become a citizen at all without having a relative who is one. There are also plenty of countries where, even being born there is not sufficient for citizenship (in fact, only 35 countries in the world grant citizenship unconditionally via being born within the borders).
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- hx8 8mo ago
  The requirements to be US President isn't to be born in the US, but to be a "natural born citizen." While the rules of being a natural born citizen is more complicated if born outside of the US, you can generally become one if one of your parents is a US citizen.
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nobodyandproud 8mo ago
I don’t mind it. Learned about it in elementary. But not stat tracking citizenship employment seems like a blind spot?
admissionsguy 8mo ago
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- nobodyandproud 8mo ago
  Every time I wonder why I don’t lean more Republican, gems like this jog me back. There’s a lot of reasons not to like Obama’s 8 years or why he wasn’t the best candidate. But for god’s sakes, this isn’t one of them.

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